Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/List of moths of Israel (Microlepidoptera)


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The result was   keep. Ron Ritzman (talk) 01:10, 29 January 2011 (UTC)

List of moths of Israel (Microlepidoptera)

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Prod declined rather rudely. Anyway, overspecific list. Parent list List of moths of Israel doesn't exist, so why should it have an even more specific subpage? Ten Pound Hammer, his otters and a clue-bat • (Otters want attention) 18:46, 21 January 2011 (UTC)
 * Well, subtract their personal attack and the creator has a point: if this can be cured by moving it to List of moths of Israel and making the current list's contents just one header, then do so. Clearly this is intended to be one of many lists that would in total be comprehensive.  That none of the others have been created yet is not a reason for deleting this one.  This is how most of the lists in Category:Regional moth lists are organized, because a single list of all species found in many countries would be too long to not divide in this way.  On a more specific note, I don't know if microlepidoptera is a proper basis for a sublist given how that article describes that as an "artificial" grouping, but that's a question for the experts, and I guess there's nothing wrong with using informal groups for a country's fauna as well as formal taxonomic ones.  In any event, keep whether kept separate as is or moved to a master list title.  postdlf (talk) 19:25, 21 January 2011 (UTC)
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 * Question Is this kind of list normal? I can't imagine that there is any species of moth found in Israel that is not also found in at least one of its neighbors.  Should we have lists for every nation in the world (not to mention US states, etc.) for every family of animals? If so keep this one. Borock (talk) 19:59, 21 January 2011 (UTC)
 * I'm no moth expert but lists like this are generally useful for identifying what can be found in Israel as opposed to a list that highlights exclusivity of populations. If that makes sense... TomPointTwo (talk) 20:10, 21 January 2011 (UTC)
 * (ec) Yes, maybe, and yes. Fauna lists by country (and even by state or other subdivision) are a significant topic in popular and scientific literature, regardless of whether those species are endemic to that country. People are interested in not only where species X can be found (as a distribution map would illustrate in that species' article), but in what can be found in location Y, so it makes sense to present the information for both purposes. postdlf (talk) 20:14, 21 January 2011 (UTC)
 * Biogeography of the Lepidoptera is not my speciality, but a list of moths of the Eastern Mediterranean, or a list of Microlepidoptera of the Eastern Mediterranean, would seem more sensible to me. Israel is a small country and not an island, while nearly all of the other lists in Category:Regional moth lists are for either vast countries or islands. Qwfp (talk) 20:37, 21 January 2011 (UTC)


 * Keep I don't see any violations of any policies here. It's pretty bare, could probably be renamed/moved and is amazingly niche but those are not criteria for deletion. As a matter of fact nom hasn't provided any relevant reasoning for even listing the article here. TomPointTwo (talk) 20:02, 21 January 2011 (UTC)
 * Keep - now that somebody created List of moths of Israel and that another article exists in the same vein (List of moths of Israel (Noctuidae)), there's no real reason to delete. I'll leave the naming/biogeography issue to the experts.--70.80.234.196 (talk) 23:26, 21 January 2011 (UTC)
 * Keep, nominator's argument is made moot by the creation of a parent list. Nyttend (talk) 01:14, 22 January 2011 (UTC)
 * Keep. Per Tom.--Epeefleche (talk) 02:57, 27 January 2011 (UTC)
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