Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/List of motorsports people by nickname (2nd nomination)


 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was keep. But, User:Trekphiler really should tone it down a little. WP:AGF and all that. Just because somebody has a different opinion than you, doesn't mean you're not both working to build the encyclopedia in the best way you know how. -- RoySmith (talk) 22:10, 23 September 2018 (UTC)

List of motorsports people by nickname
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Nowhere near encyclopedic value. Pure trivia. This is just collection of information for the sake of having another list. Tvx1 13:09, 14 September 2018 (UTC)


 * "Nowhere near encyclopedic value" And lists of Pokemon characters are, I suppose. Does it cross your mind some people might just find it useful to be able to go to a page, knowing a nickname but not a given name, & be able to find out who the person is? It's the same rationale behind List of military figures by nickname, which I started precisely because I knew the nickname but not the given name. Of course, given the generally derisive treatment motorsports get here, & given the recent effort to delete half the page because of redlinks (which supposedly confer "non-notability"), I shouldn't be surprised by this: it's the same effort, writ large: delete what you don't care about. While you're at it, why don't you delete the drifter pages, & Garlits', & Prudhomme's, & Muldonwney's, since they're "nowhere near encyclopedic value", either, are they?  TREKphiler  any time you're ready, Uhura  13:57, 14 September 2018 (UTC)
 * Not a valid argument. Neither is the other article.Tvx1 14:12, 14 September 2018 (UTC)


 * Keep WP:UNENCYCLOPEDIC is a poor nomination. Andy Dingley (talk) 14:42, 14 September 2018 (UTC)
 * Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Lists-related deletion discussions.  CAPTAIN RAJU (T) 17:31, 14 September 2018 (UTC)
 * Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Sports-related deletion discussions.  CAPTAIN RAJU (T) 17:31, 14 September 2018 (UTC)
 * Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Lists of people-related deletion discussions. Coolabahapple (talk) 03:24, 16 September 2018 (UTC)


 * Comment - In its present form, this list is an indiscriminate collection of information due to the excessive number of non-notable entries. A discussion was recently started here to address this concern, though the response there was to leave the excessive non-notable entries in the article.  Without a more restrictive selection criteria, this list is mostly unencyclopedic fan cruft and should be deleted. Magnolia677 (talk) 09:26, 16 September 2018 (UTC)
 * Comment "Non-notable entries"? Like Magoo, & Ed "The Ace", & Big John, you mean? People who've been in racing or customizing for 50yr, made countless appearances in national magazines... Yeah, right. So if they're not notable, why do they have sourced WP pages? And if this list is so offensive because it's got all the drifting drives & mechanics on it, why don't you try getting the inclusion criteria changed, instead of trying to delete the whole page, including the people who belong on it? TREKphiler  any time you're ready, Uhura  06:47, 17 September 2018 (UTC)
 * Weak Keep entries are sourced (but many of the references don't check out or are unreliable) and most are to bluelinks. Some cleanup is needed; a split to have separate pages for NASCAR, Formula One, motorcycle racing, etc. would probably improve the encyclopedia. power~enwiki ( π,  ν ) 21:40, 17 September 2018 (UTC)
 * Keep - It is a useful list providing links to many notable people and deserves to be retained. Cwmhiraeth (talk) 08:08, 20 September 2018 (UTC)
 * Not a valid argument.Tvx1 11:12, 20 September 2018 (UTC)
 * "Not a valid argument" Actually, if you'd bother to read the page you cite, it is. "Usefulness" with a reason can justify a keep. You just want to delete the page & ignore any argument you dislike. And I'd agree with that proposition: if somebody comes here knowing only the nickname, where else do you look but a page like this one? Especially if you, frex, don't know which "Flying Finn" or "King" might be meant, from the context? Not to mention the casual reader who might just want to learn about nicknames in motorsport. (Oh, wait, that's just trivia, & should be deleted, right? And all those pages on Pokemon characters & "Seinfeld" episode summaries are critical to have...)  TREKphiler  any time you're ready, Uhura  23:46, 22 September 2018 (UTC)


 * Keep I think it passes LISTN. Szzuk (talk) 19:59, 23 September 2018 (UTC)


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