Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/List of movies with more than one Academy Award nomination in the same category


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The result was no consensus. &mdash;Darkwind (talk) 03:30, 7 June 2015 (UTC)

List of movies with more than one Academy Award nomination in the same category

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A list based on an arbitrary criterion. I don't see any secondary source discussen such kind of list. Useless for navigation Staszek Lem (talk) 19:23, 29 May 2015 (UTC)
 * If it included the song category it would probably be more useful also I think there is a similar list already.Wgolf (talk) 19:32, 29 May 2015 (UTC)
 * Yes, there are similar lists, but they are for multiple awards, not nominations. They are fancruft as well, but notability is a notch higher. 21:00, 29 May 2015 (UTC)


 * Delete - per nom. While there are many Academy Award lists (Category:Academy Awards lists), this seems too random. —Мандичка YO 😜 20:40, 29 May 2015 (UTC)
 * Weak keep. The fear of vote splitting is real and alive in Hollywood, and should be discussed in the article. See the Variety article "A look back at Oscar vote-split survivors" or AMC's comment on how both Burt Lancaster and Montgomery Clift being nominated for the Best Actor award for From Here to Eternity probably benefited William Holden. Bette Davis and Anne Baxter in All About Eve is another notorious example. Clarityfiend (talk) 21:11, 29 May 2015 (UTC)
 * Then we have to write an article Vote splitting in Hollywood. If it is a real issue, then this list would make sense. In this case I may agree than my nomination was based on little understanding of the subject area, and this list is not so random as it seems at the first glance to an ignorant person. Staszek Lem (talk) 21:51, 29 May 2015 (UTC)
 * P.S. Hollywood+"vote splitting"+film does hit several thou in google search. Staszek Lem (talk) 21:59, 29 May 2015 (UTC)
 * I don't see how vote splitting applies in Oscar voting and think they are using that term incorrectly. Additionally, Oscar voting results are never revealed, unlike political elections where it is possible to see where the votes went and analyze them. It's not possible to see that in the Oscar race, so it seems reaching to base a list purely on that theory. —Мандичка YO 😜 21:59, 29 May 2015 (UTC)
 * There are two three forms of Oscar vote splitting, one in which similar movies can split the ballots, when one person is nominated multiple times, and when actors/songs/etc. from the same movie divvy up the support. Variety thinks the last is a real (or at least perceived) issue. So does this unpublished paper by Steven Brams and Paul Hager and this New York Times article which cites three nominated Enchanted songs. Clarityfiend (talk) 00:11, 30 May 2015 (UTC)
 * I think there was one movie (The Miracle Worker maybe?) where one of the two leading actresses was actually nominated as a supporting actress to avoid this problem. Clarityfiend (talk) 00:25, 30 May 2015 (UTC)
 * Delete, per the nominators arguments. If voting is secret then any suggestion of relevance of vote splitting would be speculative (and if there were examples of notorious vote splitting allegations these could be mentioned briefly in the main Academy Award article(s). Sionk (talk) 01:26, 30 May 2015 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Film-related deletion discussions. • Gene93k (talk) 18:49, 30 May 2015 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Lists-related deletion discussions. • Gene93k (talk) 18:50, 30 May 2015 (UTC)


 * Comment: I can see some basis for this list. It is somewhat specialist, but I did find a couple of reliable sources: Associated Press: "Same category, same film? Oscar win unlikely" and The Week: "7 curious facts about the 2012 Oscar nominees". I think a good way to find sources would be to search for some titles together to pull up additional sources that talk about multiple nominations. In addition, if this is kept, I would say to change the name to say "films" instead and to put "acting" before "category". Erik II (talk &#124; contrib) (ping me) 22:42, 30 May 2015 (UTC)
 * Keep per above as well as 's reference, which I did not explore until now. I think there is sufficient basis to keep a list. Erik II (talk &#124; contrib) (ping me) 22:49, 30 May 2015 (UTC)
 * Keep Fulfills requirements for a stand-alone list article, change name from "movies" to "films." Gmcbjames (talk) 22:04, 1 June 2015 (UTC)
 * Delete: The vote splitting issue is purely speculative in nature even from those resources. And, I'd say there needs to be more than ten articles to have this particular list stay
 * --Birdienest81 (talk) 03:55, 6 June 2015 (UTC)


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