Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/List of museums


 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was SNOW keep.  Jclemens (talk) 16:58, 22 June 2009 (UTC)

List of museums

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This page is manually duplicating the automated system of Category hierarchy and their generated contents. Oashi (talk) 00:17, 21 June 2009 (UTC)


 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Lists-related deletion discussions.  —Oashi (talk) 00:25, 21 June 2009 (UTC)

Oashi (talk) 00:30, 21 June 2009 (UTC)

1) This page is placed to the Category:Lists by country, very correctly, OK, following its real content.


 * 1a) But thus its name should reflect this fact: So the rename request: List of museums by country


 * 1b) Rather than lists of each museum one by one, please change this page to be a list of links to the country/city lists: I.e.: List of museums in France. ...however, such page could be argued as well.


 * 1c) If usable, I would expect this page as main page for this Category:Museums by country. But I do not see it usable, see my arguments lower.

2) I am in doubts, why this page exists at all:
 * 2a) This way, on this page, all the data here are doubled, as each country/city offers such list better way. The only result here is redundancy, thus inconsistency.


 * 2b) Instead of bothering local national admins of the country pages to provide their data here, rather we could to push them to update their pages. I.e. there is no such list of museums for the Czech republic: neither on country page (nor on its outline)


 * ...neither or there is no page for the Category:Museums in the Czech Republic. Well, this is not wrong (IMHO): One would not be able to keep such page up to date.


 * 2c) Here, in organizing of the categories, one's effort would be more effective and helpful, IMHO, as content on these 'category pages' is updated automaticaly . So, why to try here to do the same manually?

Instead of wasting ours and theirs energy and time by redundat data on list pages, let's put an eye on systematization of existing pages into categories: comparing contents (chapter structure etc.) of the member pages would bring greate inspiration to the admins (wikipedist) of the local pages (by country, by city). And such effort is really needed as that cannot be done (compared) by bots, human's eye is needed here.

I request to delete all this page. Instead, let's provide inspirations to the local admins.

Snow keep.-- The Legendary   Sky Attacker  09:57, 21 June 2009 (UTC) Look at all the support for keep already. SNOW!!!!!!!! -- The Legendary   Sky Attacker  23:15, 21 June 2009 (UTC)
 * Keep. There are good reasons why we have lists as well as categories. You can put a list on your watchlist, but not a category.  Lists can be sortable, but categories are always alphabetical.  See WP:CLN for other reasons, and the relevant guidelines.— S Marshall   Talk / Cont  00:49, 21 June 2009 (UTC)
 * Keep  Categories and lists are complementary, and there is no reason not to have both. Lists have the particular advantage of providing some information about the material in which they appear, thus facilitating identification and browsing.  Browsing is a key function of an encyclopedia. As for how to organize the list, discuss on its talk page.  As for what name it ought to have, discuss there as well. The change to List of Museums by country might be a good one; We might then also have a List of Museums by subject.  DGG (talk) 01:13, 21 June 2009 (UTC)
 * Keep per above...needs work, needs commentary on the talk page for sure; but as a list it can serve a useful function as several other lists do...Modernist (talk) 01:26, 21 June 2009 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Museums and libraries-related deletion discussions.  -- TexasAndroid (talk) 03:18, 21 June 2009 (UTC)
 * Keep. Many of the reasons at WP:CLN apply in this case. Sancho 07:19, 21 June 2009 (UTC)
 * Keep per Modernist.-- The Legendary   Sky Attacker  09:56, 21 June 2009 (UTC)
 * Strong keep per WP:CLN. Also note the number of language cross-links, a good indication of importance, which would be lost. — Jonathan Bowen (talk) 21:42, 21 June 2009 (UTC)
 * The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.