Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/List of names that take the definite article


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The result was the delete. Krimpet (talk) 06:13, 28 May 2007 (UTC)

List of names that take the definite article

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Unencyclopedic listcruft; violates WP:NOT. dcandeto 00:25, 28 May 2007 (UTC)
 * The definite delete. Per dcandeto. Clarityfiend 01:01, 28 May 2007 (UTC)
 * Delete The problem, aside from the obvious one, is that usage differs. Some textbooks use "Sudan" while others use "The Sudan" (based on the Arabic), and so forth. Yechiel Man  01:25, 28 May 2007 (UTC)
 * Delete. Not just listcruft per dcandeto and unreliable per Yechiel but also potentially inflammatory: many Ukrainians consider the phrase "The Ukraine" as wrong and perhaps even borderline racist depending on who you ask. Having that in a list without comment as 'preferred usage' makes me wonder how many other of these entries would be considered wrong. -- Charlene 01:36, 28 May 2007 (UTC)
 * Comment That's a bit strange, as Ukrainian has no definite article. That would also make transwikiing this article difficult.  dcandeto 02:26, 28 May 2007 (UTC)
 * Comment Here's a good rundown of how that came about. Certainly since independence the official position of the Ukraine government has been to prefer no article in translation. But it was long common when it was just a "region". That's the crux of why it's sensitive.--Dhartung | Talk 04:48, 28 May 2007 (UTC)
 * Delete. Whether a name takes a definite article or not is purely speculative. Is it "The Dixie Chicks" or just "Dixie Chicks"? "The Mall at Hays" or just "Mall at Hays"? "The city of Whittemore or just "City of Whittemore"? Et cetera. Ten Pound Hammer  • (((Broken clamshells • Otter chirps))) 01:42, 28 May 2007 (UTC)
 * Snow delete going to get huge, unmanageable, and just all around pointless. --Whsitchy 03:00, 28 May 2007 (UTC)
 * Delete as a general list this is indiscriminate. Some bands (e.g. Nine Inch Nails) emphatically do not take the article, so distinguishing bands a more discriminate approach. This list seems like it could be useful if sourced, and no doubt other versions of the list are out there. But I'm not sure it needs an article. --Dhartung | Talk 04:48, 28 May 2007 (UTC)


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