Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/List of nicknames of European royalty and nobility


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The result was delete. It would have been easier for a closer if these pages had been presented as a bundled nomination. Liz Read! Talk! 21:12, 1 November 2022 (UTC)

List of nicknames of European royalty and nobility

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I am nominating all subpages of List of nicknames of European royalty and nobility -- i.e. the full list split over 20 different pages. I do not see evidence that the pages meet WP:LISTN -- I cannot find books or scholarship that discuss the development of nicknames in European royalty as a whole. Obviously individual nicknames are often notable, but I do not see discussion of this topic "as a group or set by independent reliable sources". This is currently an WP:INDISCRIMINATE collection of information, badly sourced and nearly impossible to manage. It's unclear what the WP:LISTCRITERIA are: what nicknames are notable enough to make it? And given the timeframe and lack of full sourcing involved that will be an almost impossible standard to set: the level of sourcing available for each nickname will vary wildly by how much scholarship there is for each individual/how old they are.

The largest pages are generally less than 50% sourced (A: 346 footnotes for 800+ entries, C: 292/700+, E: 212/500+, F: 198/~400, H: 199/~550, J: 278/550+, L: 209/500+). The only other option is to do a huge cut of these pages down to only sourced nicknames, but frankly I don't think that's worth the effort. Any truly notable nicknames can be listed on the person's page, which is the first place the reader will go to find information about that person--not a barely viewed list page. Alyo (chat·edits) 15:46, 25 October 2022 (UTC)
 * Note: This discussion has been included in the deletion sorting lists for the following topics: Royalty and nobility, Lists,  and Europe.  Alyo  (chat·edits) 15:46, 25 October 2022 (UTC)
 * Delete all Besides being largely unsourced, there's no reason why these many thousands of people should have their nicknames lumped together. They may belong on respective individuals' articles, but there's nothing saying why listing them in this way isn't indisriminate. Reywas92Talk 16:00, 25 October 2022 (UTC)
 * Delete all. I agree with all that Reywas92 says. This is a completely trivial and pointless list. Athel cb (talk) 18:54, 25 October 2022 (UTC)
 * Delete all. This has been a long time coming, for all the reasons mentioned by the nom and by me here. JoelleJay (talk) 22:15, 25 October 2022 (UTC)
 * And for a taste of what it's like trying to work with the article creator, here's their response to my comment. JoelleJay (talk) 22:18, 25 October 2022 (UTC)
 * Delete all per above and per my comments at the user talk section JoelleJay linked above, which I see have not been addressed in the slightest. Fails WP:V/WP:OR spectacularly. eviolite   (talk)  01:42, 26 October 2022 (UTC)
 * Delete Unencyclopedic topic. Accesscrawl (talk) 13:18, 26 October 2022 (UTC)


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