Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/List of nicknames used in Australian rules


 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.  

The result of the debate was keep, no consensus to delete (but must be sourced to comply with Wikipedia policy). —Ilmari Karonen (talk) 20:24, 3 May 2006 (UTC)

List of nicknames used in Australian rules
Some Australian rules football players and coaching staff (past and present) have interesting nicknames, but very likely almost every one in the league has one. There is also the problem of verifiability WP:V. The notable, worthy of mention and/or verifiable ones should be mentioned or included on the players page where appropriate (short explanations in some cases may be necessary). blue 520  06:37, 26 April 2006 (UTC) Can't we merge with the individual players articles? That way we keep the knowledge, lose the page and everyones happy! (were it only that simple.....) Jcuk 22:32, 26 April 2006 (UTC)
 * Delete. While I can't vouch for every nickname, many of them appear accurate from my knowledge. How useful this list is another matter? Perhaps we ought to have Wikilists for lists of information of interest to some but not of encyclopedic or almanac value. Capitalistroadster 08:30, 26 April 2006 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Australia-related deletions.   -- Capitalistroadster 08:34, 26 April 2006 (UTC)
 * Delete per nominator and User:Capitalistroadster. J I P  | Talk 09:44, 26 April 2006 (UTC)
 * Delete per aboves, serious WP:V issues and too open to slander or vanity. Jed Adcock (redlink) may indeed be referred to as "Stiffy" and "Fat", or Alan Didak as "Poof" (something not mentioned in his own article) but I'm not sure we need to know about it. Weak keep, per other lists of nicknames, and as long as the AFL team try to keep it verified and free of vanity, cruft and slander. No redlinks, and nicknames must be mentioned in players individual articles would be a consensus to start from here.  Dei zio  11:17, 26 April 2006 (UTC)
 * Strong undecided (yes, well ...) I like this article - I've contributed to it - but I can't really argue that it has an unalienable right to page space. I want to be convinced that it does. Colon el  Tom 13:29, 26 April 2006 (UTC) Keep, and suggest a strong suggestion on the talk page that future inclusions preferably give some provenance, and that nicknames like 'Smithy' for Smith not be included. (per below suggestions). Colon el  Tom 04:31, 29 April 2006 (UTC)
 * Delete, unverifiable per Capitalistroadster. --Ter e nce Ong 15:07, 26 April 2006 (UTC)
 * Delete per all above. JPD (talk) 16:18, 26 April 2006 (UTC)
 * Delete unreferenced. however, perfect for the AFL wikia --Astrokey44 16:23, 26 April 2006 (UTC)
 * Delete per nom. These nicknames may (if significant enough) appear in appropriate player articles, but I can't fathom what's encyclopedic about a generic list of sports nicknames.  RGTraynor 16:40, 26 April 2006 (UTC)
 * Keep if they can be verified. I don't see why an encyclopaedia can't be broad enough to accommodate such things for those interested in the subject. Let's not be all puritanical. Tyrenius 21:03, 26 April 2006 (UTC)
 * Keep. Agree that verifiability is a bit of a problem but nicknames in Australian sport is an integral part of its culture. A well maintained list likes this is a useful tool for readers for cross referencing.  This is exactly the sort of thing that Wikipedia can do well. -- I@n &equiv; talk 00:34, 27 April 2006 (UTC)
 * Half-hearted Keep - previous two make good cases, verifiability becomes the issue - on the other hand, if you can't verify something to do with Aussie rules, it's not worth writing about - nick names are commonly shown in the papers and footy related media. ρ¡ρρµ δ→θ∑ -  (waarom? jus'b'coz!)  01:18, 27 April 2006 (UTC)
 * Looking through this list, footy fans would recognise 80-90% of the nicknames without a problem - verifiability is probably not an issue, and it is possible that people are overeacting. It's not the most cerebral article out, but then again, you can find plenty worse examples of articles if you try hard enough.  ρ¡ρρµ δ→θ∑ -  (waarom? jus'b'coz!)  11:56, 27 April 2006 (UTC)


 * Delete. Die. Ambi 01:32, 27 April 2006 (UTC)
 * Die????ßlηguγΣη | Have your say!!! - review me 01:39, 27 April 2006 (UTC)
 * Die? -- Synapse 04:47, 1 May 2006 (UTC)
 * But none of them have the nickname "Die". Tyrenius 03:17, 3 May 2006 (UTC)
 * Death threats are never appropriate on AfD. Jimpartame 06:53, 3 May 2006 (UTC)
 * Delete. Unverifiable, and if it is, put it in the appropriate players profile. Anubis1975 02:02, 27 April 2006 (UTC)
 * No thanks/delete--cj | talk 06:39, 27 April 2006 (UTC)
 * Keep + Comment The presentation of the arrticle perhaps has to change. Reasons for how the nicknames was created as well as sources may need to be added. Maybe only nicknames that are interesting and not very similar to the player's name should be kept. Btw, there are many other similar pages to this page. Here's a list


 * List of athletes by nickname
 * List of baseball nicknames
 * List of entertainers by nickname
 * List of hockey nicknames
 * List of nicknames used in cricket

More of these can be found in the See also section of nickname. If this page were to be deleted, all of the pages should be deleted to keep consistency. GizzaChat  &#169; 01:26, 28 April 2006 (UTC)
 * Keep and verify - notable enough, although perhaps not the most encyclopedic thing, but this is celebrity-like material I think, and apparently celebrities are notable.ßlηguγΣη | Have your say!!! - review me 02:03, 28 April 2006 (UTC)


 * Keep - Why isn't List of nicknames used in cricket up for deletion as well? Alot of the nicknames like "poof" are clearly cases of vandalism. There would be an uproar if the ice hockey entries were deleted but because we don't have the manpower at WP:AFL - this article's gone :(. I agree that obvious nicknames like Mark Bolton - "Bolts", Joel Smith - "Smithy" etc should be gone.  R o  gerthat  Talk  10:12, 28 April 2006 (UTC)
 * Can A admin or some one with an idea please move the article back and restore the edit history from Rogerthat user space at least until the close of this AfD. For I do not feel that it is suitable to move to name space during a AfD, a copy should be fine but not a move and redirect.-- blue  520  12:13, 29 April 2006 (UTC)


 * OK, now we're voting on a RDR to a userspace article? I don't think that was what was intended. pfctdayelise (translate?) 15:30, 29 April 2006 (UTC)
 * I have restored (copied) text back to the main article, and got rid of the redirect. However, the history seems to have been lost, so an admin might need to look into that. Tyrenius 15:50, 29 April 2006 (UTC)
 * The page history is now here on the user page separated from the main article. Tyrenius 15:55, 29 April 2006 (UTC)
 * That's all restored and fixed now. -- I@n &equiv; talk 03:20, 30 April 2006 (UTC)


 * Keep per precedent set by other "nicknames in sport" articles. -- Synapse 04:47, 1 May 2006 (UTC)
 * Weak keep per precedent. Source and put a little detail on how/why for notable entries, remove nn ones. -- Saberwyn 07:33, 1 May 2006 (UTC)
 * Keep -- established precedents. List is open to abuse however, so citing references would be handy. -- Longhair 08:55, 2 May 2006 (UTC)
 * Keepas per above. :Librarianofages 03:05, 3 May 2006 (UTC)
 * Keep. Interesting and verifiable. Jimpartame 06:53, 3 May 2006 (UTC)


 * The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.