Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/List of notable large people


 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.  

The result of the debate was DELETE. Mo0 [ talk ] 01:15, 16 January 2006 (UTC)

List of notable large people
A bunch of reasons: Seems slightly POV, a lot of this has got to be unverifiable, and despite the intro's suggestion that it's historical plenty of the people on it are presently alive. "Large" is also extremely vague in this context. Daniel Case 17:51, 10 January 2006 (UTC)
 * Keep. I don't think it's encylopedic, but there are several other such lists. (Big busted, for example.) -- Mikeblas 18:00, 10 January 2006 (UTC)
 * delete. Completely POV - Why Kirstie alley and not Oprah? and seems that famous people with temporary weight gain could get stuck on the list forever. MNewnham 18:58, 10 January 2006 (UTC)
 * keep. It's a list that could be added to (for example, Oprah can be added, as can others). It seems like the people on it are people who are known especially for being heavy for a significant period of time, as opposed to people who are transitorily heavy, like Kate Winslet or Renee Zellweger. Much of other lists - like Feminists or a similar "Notable Obese People" - is POV as well. Raedyke 19:18, 10 January 2006 (UTC)
 * Delete. Inherently POV. No definition of "large." Both Jack Black and Whoopi Goldberg are on the list. I don't think they are "large." And Mao Tse-Tung?  I've never heard of him described as "large"! Such a list lends itself to such arguments. It's an opinion list. Not encylopedic.  What do you when someone loses weight?  If the list were, for example, notable people who have weighed over 300 lbs., that's another thing, but even then there would have to be documentation of the weight and we would have to ascertain that the people are notable. Crunch 19:34, 10 January 2006 (UTC)
 * Comment. It includes "above average" as a definition of large. -- Mikeblas 19:42, 10 January 2006 (UTC)
 * Comment. How is "average" defined? It seems very nebulous. Crunch 20:03, 10 January 2006 (UTC)
 * Comment. I'd expect that it means the CDC's tables, based on a target BMI. Even that stipulated, I don't think a weak definition is a criteria for deletion. -- Mikeblas 13:39, 11 January 2006 (UTC)


 * Weak keep, verify, clean-up, possibly rename, and provide standards for inclusion or move to Famous fat fucks. Youngamerican 20:33, 10 January 2006 (UTC)
 * Delete Who and what defines large? Notable people alive and dead?  What happens when the living people diet?  Where is the threshold for large?  Very POV and impossible to administer, let alone verify every notable large person's size and weight. -- (aeropagitica) [[Image:Flag_of_England.svg|25px|UK]] 20:56, 10 January 2006 (UTC)
 * Delete, pure POV. Crotalus horridus (TALK • CONTRIBS) 21:06, 10 January 2006 (UTC)
 * delete More useless listcrud. Eusebeus 22:46, 10 January 2006 (UTC)
 * Comment Is there any reason this is not a category? Segv11 (talk/contribs) 23:21, 10 January 2006 (UTC)
 * Comment For the same reason it probably can't be an article. Can't define what large is, POV, no standards, etc. Crunch 23:38, 10 January 2006 (UTC)


 * Delete Useless, offensive, doesn't belong in an encycl. --kingboyk 00:16, 11 January 2006 (UTC)
 * Delete per Kingboyk and Eusebeus. kenj0418 02:29, 11 January 2006 (UTC)
 * Shouldn't this just be Merged with List of notable obese people, which was just debated on AfD or am I missing something here? -- JJay 03:53, 11 January 2006 (UTC)
 * Delete without specific standards and sourcing. FCYTravis 04:19, 11 January 2006 (UTC)
 * Delete for POV and lack of clear definition. Durova 07:08, 11 January 2006 (UTC)
 * Delete for POV and lack of clear definition, as well as not having the gumption to say "fat". - brenneman (t) (c)  07:11, 11 January 2006 (UTC)
 * Delete per verifiability, POV, weasel-word and listcruft concerns expressed above. Just zis Guy, you know? [T]/[C] [[Image:Flag of the United Kingdom.svg|25px| ]] AfD? 20:01, 12 January 2006 (UTC)
 * Delete. Pavel Vozenilek 00:53, 13 January 2006 (UTC)
 * Delete for lack of definition and inherent POV and other reasons. Lists like List of big-bust models and performers are okay because they define themselves well and are verifiable. Grandmasterka 08:02, 15 January 2006 (UTC)
 * keep and merge - overweight people are discriminated against. this list is useful to bring inspiration. merge with List of notable obese people. Kingturtle 19:48, 15 January 2006 (UTC)
 * It should be noted both that this list exists as a spin-off from Fat acceptance movement re "inspiration" above, and that it includes people who weren't considred fat by their contemporaries, which sort of defeats the purpose. - brenneman (t) (c)  23:02, 15 January 2006 (UTC)


 * The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.