Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/List of notable science fiction films


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The result was  d elete. - Mailer Diablo 10:58, 4 April 2007 (UTC)

List of notable science fiction films

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List with many problems: It includes any film that has won a "widely-recognized" award (including a Razzie). "Widely-recognized" is inherently subjective. I know about films but I haven't heard of some of these awards. Annual box office receipts also appear to be a factor here.

WP:NOR states that unpublished analysis or synthesis of published material... (including) interpretations, definitions, and arguments published by Wikipedia must already have been published by a reliable publication. So unless these films have specifically been listed in this order, for this reason, by a reliable publication before, the list is OR.

Also problems with the title; "notable" just doesn't work in Wikipedia articles because, by definition, every science fiction film with an article is notable. I have proposed a rename (renaming it to anything else descriptive), but that was before I actually looked at the list properly and realised it shouldn't even be on here. Saikokira 02:06, 30 March 2007 (UTC)


 * Comment, you're right about the problems in this article... but I'm not sure that it should be deleted for them. Films considered the greatest ever had many of these problems at one point but it's better (not great) now and seems to be accepted as an article that won't be deleted. With some work this could be the same.  I'd vote keep if someone was going to clean this up. gren グレン 02:28, 30 March 2007 (UTC)
 * I don't believe the problems here are the type that can be solved by cleaning it up. Films considered the greatest ever is different because it's a list of superlatives, so most of the films on that list have ranked higher or won more awards in a particular field than any other. Saikokira 05:40, 30 March 2007 (UTC)


 * Delete - any film with a Wikipedia article is supposed to be notable by definition and this is redundant to the far more comprehensive category system for science fiction films. If the award the films won is sufficiently notable then lists of the films that won those awards might be acceptable. Otto4711 02:39, 30 March 2007 (UTC)
 * Delete as well as the previous reasons this list is too loosely connected. If it was just sci-fi films that have won an Oscar, OK. If it was highest-grossing sci-fi films ever, fine. But where's the strong connection between a Golden Globe, a "Hugo", and a Razzie? There isn't one. There's a related AFD discussion at Articles for deletion/Road to the 76th Academy Awards. Croxley 04:20, 30 March 2007 (UTC)
 * Split into separate lists about the winners of the listed awards for those lists that don't already exist. A list of all notable SF films would be unmaintainable. - Mgm|(talk) 12:10, 30 March 2007 (UTC)
 * Delete. I concur with Otto4711 in saying that as "notability" is a criterion for inclusion in Wikipedia, by default a list of "notable" films is redundant to the existing category system. The article attempts to create a more narrow definition of "notability" but in doing so has injected a POV bias as to what constitutes a "widely-recognized" award.   A r k y a n  &#149; (talk) 15:30, 30 March 2007 (UTC)


 * The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.