Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/List of notable teenage parents


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The result was delete. Sr13 04:09, 19 June 2007 (UTC)

List of notable teenage parents

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List with an arbitary inclusion criteria Garrie 05:39, 14 June 2007 (UTC)
 * Delete Throughout history, becoming a parent before turning 20 was not an unusual event.Garrie 05:40, 14 June 2007 (UTC)
 * delete Not likely to become a complete or even near complete list (even with the "notable" proviso). Arbitrary criteria. Flyguy649talkcontribs 05:43, 14 June 2007 (UTC)
 * Comment Categories with arbitrary cutoff points are specifically mentioned as bad by WP:OVERCAT; does the same apply to lists? "Teenage mothers" feels vaguely like an attack term also, but women who bear children at a young age (and men who impregnate women at a young age) are probably notable and featured e.g. in the Guinness Book of World Records. cab 07:14, 14 June 2007 (UTC)
 * Delete It's an interesting list, but I would delete it because it seems to serve an agenda.  For the same reason, I would say to delete articles that were called "List of teenage suicides", "List of persons who killed their parents", "List of unplanned pregnancies that weren't terminated" or "List of celebrities who had abortions when they were teens".  The point of the article seems to be that if a teenager gets pregnant, she should carry the child to term and raise it (or, alternatively, that it's OK if a teenager gets pregnant because Oprah did, and she turned out all right).  Mandsford 11:54, 14 June 2007 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Lists-related deletions.   -- --  pb30 < talk > 12:17, 14 June 2007 (UTC)
 * Comment I created the list and no, it doesn’t have any “agenda”: it was merely a way of splitting off information from the increasingly-long teenage pregnancy article (see Talk:Teenage_pregnancy for the discussion). However, I’m not particularly attached to the list and I’ll remain neutral on the AfD.Fionah 12:23, 14 June 2007 (UTC)
 * Delete. As stated above, unmaintainable list.  There is little noteworthy in being a parent as a teenager, particularly in a historical context.  Ark yan  &#149; (talk) 15:39, 14 June 2007 (UTC)
 * Comment I recomend merging this into Teenage Pregnancy or keeping this article. -Vcelloho 15:43, 14 June 2007 (UTC)
 * Delete. Indiscriminate list. This article could conceivably include almost every woman born before 1800 outside of the English-speaking world. (Other than nobles, the English tended to marry late - the average age at marriage in 1600 was the same as it was in 1960.) It could also include a huge number of men, of course. -- Charlene 16:40, 14 June 2007 (UTC)
 * Delete, I put the unsourced tag on it three weeks ago and it has yet to be sourced save for one entry. OR.  Corvus cornix 17:19, 14 June 2007 (UTC)
 * Delete nothing more notable about being a parent at 19 years 364 days old than when one is a day or two older. Carlossuarez46 18:35, 14 June 2007 (UTC)
 * Delete as indiscriminate and unremarkable. Yechiel Man 19:10, 14 June 2007 (UTC)
 * Delete I have nothing new to add, as its all been covered nicely above. &mdash; Gaff  ταλκ 21:19, 14 June 2007 (UTC)
 * Comment: This could potentially be made to work, like List of famous people who died young, if specific conditions for inclusion were drawn. Working with the criteria from the ...died young list, "notable" could be defined as "notable for reasons other than being a teenage parent," while "teenage parent" could be defined as "a person who has their first child under the age of 20." The latter criteria could be further refined to only include people who became teenage parents during time periods and in cultures in which the incidence of teenage parenthood had declined enough for it to become something notable. Also, as I understand it, the information is sourced from the individual biographical articles of the people on the list. -Severa  (!!!) 22:09, 14 June 2007 (UTC)
 * Comment Potentially useful, and interesting, but per WP:IINFO, it's probably going to go down the plughole - no vote.-h i s  s p a c e   r e s e a r c h 22:34, 14 June 2007 (UTC)
 * Comment First off, I really don't care whether or not this list is deleted, but I would like to point out that the "notability" aspect of this list is not due to the persons being a parent before the age of 20. The list is a list of people notable for other reasons that were parents before the age of 20.  Therefore the argument "there is nothing notable about being pregnant before the age of 20" is irrelevant in this instance.--Phil McGowan (user:PhilyG) 03:25, 15 June 2007 (UTC)
 * The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.