Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/List of nursing specialties


 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was keep. Keeping this page per the argument for keeps. Please consider improving, and if there remain concerns, feel free to contest or renom. Missvain (talk) 18:56, 21 January 2020 (UTC)

List of nursing specialties

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There is no definition of a speciality in nursing, and practice varies from place to place and time to time. There are no articles to match some of the list contents. This is better handled by categorisation. Rathfelder (talk) 09:16, 14 January 2020 (UTC)
 * Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Health and fitness-related deletion discussions. Rathfelder (talk) 09:16, 14 January 2020 (UTC)
 * Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Lists-related deletion discussions.  CAPTAIN RAJU (T) 11:12, 14 January 2020 (UTC)


 * Delete as redundant. In its present state, it doesn't do anything that Category:Nursing specialties doesn't, other than offer suggestions as to new articles to create. Clarityfiend (talk) 19:38, 14 January 2020 (UTC)
 * Keep, "redundancy" to a category is not a valid deletion argument per WP:NOTDUP. Nor do we delete anything based purely on "its present state" rather than its potential. The suggestions that this should be deleted because it has WP:REDLINKS are also completely off base. postdlf (talk) 22:41, 14 January 2020 (UTC)
 * I cant see any potential for useful development. It's an arbitrary list with no definition. How could it become useful?  Rathfelder (talk) 15:26, 15 January 2020 (UTC)
 * Are you claiming it can't be defined? And how then would it be viable as a category? But in any event it would seem to be based on a clear and usual meaning of "specialities" given what's in the list. How else would you classify "cardiac nursing", "dental nursing", etc.? I'm just not seeing an issue there. postdlf (talk) 17:09, 15 January 2020 (UTC)
 * I'm not aware of any definition of nursing specialities. I'm not suggesting that there arent any.  In fact my impression is that all nursing is specialist.   That's why I think the list is unhelpful.  The question of what constitutes a speciality is pretty subjective.  It certainly varies by time and place.  And some of these roles are not confined to nurses, though nurses may do them. Of course the same issues arise in categorisation, but I think they are easier to deal with there.    Rathfelder (talk) 22:39, 15 January 2020 (UTC)
 * A "nursing specialty" is a specialty in nursing (see also specialist #2 (medicine)). This really isn't that difficult or controversial. Can you show a history of edit warring or confusion on what belongs there and in the corresponding category? Most of the entries are defined in their own articles' introductory sentencing as nursing specialties. And the list is helpful because it indexes articles together by a shared characteristic, per WP:LISTPURP. postdlf (talk) 14:32, 16 January 2020 (UTC)
 * What does that achieve which is not better done by a category, other than listing red links to articles that dont exist? Rathfelder (talk) 18:49, 16 January 2020 (UTC)
 * Keep The nursing template puts them in a section called "Specialties and areas of practice". Search Wikipedia for nursing specialty  and see how many of these articles use the term "nursing specialty" in them to describe what they are.  This is a real thing, and that's what its called.  And the rules are clear that you can't delete a list simply because you like categories better.   D r e a m Focus  23:08, 17 January 2020 (UTC)
 * Keep - perfectly good list. Certifications exist for all sorts of nursing specialties, for example certified nephrology nurse and certified nurse educator. Lists can complement categories. Bearian (talk) 19:04, 20 January 2020 (UTC)
 * Keep - consensus isn't quite clear, so I thought I'd add on to confirm that speciality definitely could be defined with some work, and I'm not convinced the absence of certain ones would suggest the entire list is pointless. Categories can't be used to eliminate lists. Nosebagbear (talk) 13:58, 21 January 2020 (UTC)


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