Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/List of occult musicians


 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.  

The result was delete. - Mailer Diablo 15:45, 6 December 2006 (UTC)

List of occult musicians



 * Delete - listcruft; potentially infinite list; occult references in music does not necessarily imply occult beliefs on the part of the artists. &mdash;Hanuman Das 06:32, 1 December 2006 (UTC)
 * Delete - unsourced, unverifiable indiscriminate listcruft and original research. MER-C 07:33, 1 December 2006 (UTC)
 * Delete None of the names listed are given much justification. It's also something of an arbitrary grab-bag of non-mainstream religious thinking called "occult." I mean shamanism? Does that mean any traditional musicians of the Ryukyuans or Mapuche are "occult." (Also if Keith Jarrett really is a follower of occultist G. I. Gurdjieff shouldn't he be here?)--T. Anthony 09:16, 1 December 2006 (UTC)
 * Delete per above. Linuxaurus 10:50, 1 December 2006 (UTC)
 * Weak delete. An essentially meaningless title, unless "occultism" figures in the music itself, in which case nigh every heavy metal band qualifies, regardless of whether the band members believe in that stuff; it's now a traditional theme.  It might be more useful broken down into "Wiccan musicians" or "Scientologist musicians" or whatever belief system they practice.  OTOH, I question whether it's right to call articles like this "unsourced" or "unverifiable" so long as a musician's beliefs are sourced and verified on their several pages; this is a compilation to assist browsers.  At minimum, the article should discuss what the musicians believe. - Smerdis of Tlön 15:27, 1 December 2006 (UTC)
 * I think it's verifiable. I just think it's using "occult" in a vague, meaningless, catch-all way that's not very helpful. That could be fixed, but I'm not sure an unvague way of using the word "occult" is possible. If someone wants a List of Thelemite musicians, List of Wicca musicians, or List of Theosophist musicians I'd not object.--T. Anthony 17:01, 1 December 2006 (UTC)


 * Delete. "occult" too vague a term. MakeRocketGoNow 19:45, 1 December 2006 (UTC)
 * Delete. Oh, puh-lease. Do we need more unverifiable and silly lists here??  MrHarman 01:29, 2 December 2006 (UTC)
 * Delete, much too vague. I could endorse T. Anthony's last suggestion of some more specific lists, though.  But I doubt if several of the names currently listed would verifiably qualify for any such list.  (Unless having once written a song mentioning Greek Gods or Papa Legba counts.) Xtifr tälk 19:07, 2 December 2006 (UTC)
 * It seems like there are people in the New Age music and part of the folk scene who claim to be Wicca or Neo-Pagan. To be honest I kind of doubt the other ideas would work.--T. Anthony 00:58, 3 December 2006 (UTC)


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