Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/List of oldest living United States governors


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The result was delete. Malcolmxl5 (talk) 13:52, 21 September 2021 (UTC)

List of oldest living United States governors

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15-year old WP:LISTCRUFT. Fails WP:NOR, WP:LISTCRIT and WP:NOSTATS.

The first section of the list is a very confusing table of historical holders of the record for "longest-lived former governor," a title that appears to have been invented by some Wikipedia editors. The start and end dates list the time period during which the person was the record holder. (Strangely, the table doesn't tell us how old they were.) This topic appears to be a completely original invention and doesn't match the title of the page, as only the current record holder is living.

The second section of the list ranks former governors who actually are living by their age. This is just a content fork of List of living former United States governors, and there's no evidence that this ranking is notable. It's a non-encyclopedic cross-categorization of office holders and longevity. pburka (talk) 16:25, 7 September 2021 (UTC)
 * Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Politicians-related deletion discussions. pburka (talk) 16:25, 7 September 2021 (UTC)
 * Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Lists of people-related deletion discussions. pburka (talk) 16:25, 7 September 2021 (UTC)
 * Note: This discussion has been included in the list of United States of America-related deletion discussions. pburka (talk) 16:25, 7 September 2021 (UTC)


 * Delete as per all the precedent of similar trivial list/statscruft deleted recently, and because this is obvious WP:OR which fails WP:LISTN (independently of it also being a content fork of a page which likely also fails the same criteria). RandomCanadian (talk / contribs) 16:58, 7 September 2021 (UTC)
 * Comment. There are similar articles for senators and representatives which should be evaluated as well.2601:241:300:B610:D14F:D58D:3EC0:80E7 (talk) 22:20, 8 September 2021 (UTC)
 * Delete WP:HTRIVIA-- rsjaffe 🗩 🖉 23:11, 8 September 2021 (UTC)
 * Delete WP:Non-encyclopedic cross-categorizations and WP:LISTN Edge3 (talk) 02:51, 9 September 2021 (UTC)
 * Delete- per above. A unsourced list that goes against WP:NOTDIR and fails WP:LISTN.  Rorshacma (talk) 16:15, 9 September 2021 (UTC)
 * Merge: See similar pages for US senators and US Representatives
 * Merge to where? 2601:241:300:B610:EC54:56D:1E0F:B3A8 (talk) 00:20, 14 September 2021 (UTC)


 * The following note was left on my talk page. I'm copying it here. pburka (talk) 14:35, 13 September 2021 (UTC)
 * You should not delete this page. Before you delete it, please look at similar pages for US Senators, US Representatives, US Presidents, Oldest Senator, NBA players, sports figures and people. Pay special attention to the bottom purple box of List of the oldest living people (Lists of the oldest people by specific groups). See also: Category:Lists of oldest people. This page helps people interested in longevity and in superlatives. In fact, the NBA page gives some examples of other superlatives (e.g. tallest, shortest) people are interested in (see the bottom purple box of the aforementioned page labeled National Basketball Association statistical leaders). These pages provide helpful information that cannot be found easily elsewhere online. Overall, the list of oldest living US governors may need to be modified or merged with other pages, but the information it contains is genuinely insightful and useful to Wikipedia users and information like it is included throughout Wikipedia. Thank you! 2601:484:C580:3420:F8B5:CA1:4E9E:5410 (talk) 05:12, 13 September 2021 (UTC)
 * The NBA list is ages of players during their careers, which is actually relevant since age can affect a player's performance. I am not going to vote on the deletion, but the oldest governors page does seem to lean toward trivia. If the governors page is deleted, the Congress pages should probably be deleted (or merged) as well. Kstern (talk) 15:23, 13 September 2021 (UTC)
 * This seems irrelevant; I mean, age can affect a governor's performance. Longevity records, as well as superlatives, are common throughout Wikipedia. I don't see why people here are so eager to delete a useful resource that cannot be found easily elsewhere.
 * Wikipedia:Other stuff exists is not considered a valid argument. As for the the statement about governor's performance, most of the governors listed on the list are retired. 2601:241:300:B610:EC54:56D:1E0F:B3A8 (talk) 00:20, 14 September 2021 (UTC)


 * Delete per WP:Non-encyclopedic cross-categorizations and WP:LISTN.4meter4 (talk) 04:58, 16 September 2021 (UTC)
 * Delete Any group of people can theoretically be listed by any number of parameters. However, most of those combinations of groups and parameters constitute WP:Non-encyclopedic cross-categorizations. In order for such a list to make for a valid stand-alone article, there needs to be a good reason why that particular group should be listed by that particular parameter. Otherwise, WP:DELREASON (Any other content not suitable for an encyclopedia) applies. In this case, it has not been demonstrated that there is a good reason to list this group by this parameter. TompaDompa (talk) 13:21, 17 September 2021 (UTC)


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