Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/List of olive green uniforms


 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was   delete.   A rbitrarily 0   ( talk ) 17:23, 31 December 2011 (UTC)

List of olive green uniforms

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This is an arbitrary combination of factors: uniforms that are of a particular color. There's nothing to suggest that this grouping has any academic or scholarly interest, or has been the subject of any WP:RS other than trivial mentions or happenstance combinations. Moreover, the article right now is an unwikified list with no context to country or explanation or prose. Shadowjams (talk) 01:36, 23 December 2011 (UTC)
 * Delete not a notable intersection of facts worth building a list about. The OP says it all.  -- Jayron  32  01:40, 23 December 2011 (UTC)


 * Note - Apparently the creator copied the text (with the AfD notice btw) to List of Olive Green field uniforms as well (notice the capitalization changes). And then added a picture. Same reasons apply so I don't think it's improper to add it to this nom as well. Shadowjams (talk) 01:45, 23 December 2011 (UTC)
 * This article is the first contribution of User:Oniuh, an account registered at 01:18, December 23, 2011. The creation of this article at 01:31, December 23, 2011 was their first edit. It was nominated for deletion within five minutes, at 01:36, December 23, 2011‎. Obviously not understanding how the deletion process works, and apparently hoping to be able to continue to develop it this work in progress, our new Wikipedia editor first copied it to Olive Green uniform, which however was quickly speedy deleted, and then copied it to List of Olive Green field uniforms where development has continued – more than a picture has been added. Although a message on the editor's talk page says "First, thank you for your contribution; Wikipedia relies solely on the efforts of volunteers such as yourself", I doubt we'll see much in the way of further contributions by this volunteer. --Lambiam 08:25, 24 December 2011 (UTC)
 * Your point, other than thinly veiled soapboxing? Shadowjams (talk) 10:28, 24 December 2011 (UTC)
 * I observe that the new-page patrolling seems designed with a particular determination in mind to scare new contributors away. While a "List of X-coloured military uniforms" may not be a good idea, nothing in the current process helps the creator to understand what the issue is, and what might perhaps be a better approach. For example, we have an article List of flags by colour, which serves a navigational purpose, and an article List of military uniforms by colour would likewise not seem unreasonable – and then the present article might be a start. And how many valuable articles started by newbies were in good shape, wikified with an appropriate exposition in proper prose of context and such, within five minutes of the creator's very first edit on Wikipedia? Somehow this does not seem the right approach to improving editor retention. --Lambiam 13:46, 24 December 2011 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Military-related deletion discussions.  • Gene93k (talk) 02:15, 23 December 2011 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Lists-related deletion discussions.  • Gene93k (talk) 02:15, 23 December 2011 (UTC)


 * Maybe rename List of military uniforms? That would at least get rid of the arbitrary color restriction. Clarityfiend (talk) 04:54, 23 December 2011 (UTC)
 * I'd support that, although I suspect there's already an article on that subject... any ideas on possible merge targets? I just don't want duplicate parallel lists out there. Shadowjams (talk) 07:41, 23 December 2011 (UTC)


 * Delete as unsourced mil-cruft with almost no content, and duplication of the also-unnecessary Olive Green uniform. Existing and more-or-less decent articles on the topic include (sigh) Military camouflage, Disruptive Pattern Material, Military uniform, British Army uniform, List of camouflage patterns, Flecktarn, Leibermuster, need I go on. How many sources are there in all of these? Liking the field and liking reference materials seem to be incompatible. Chiswick Chap (talk) 08:42, 23 December 2011 (UTC)
 * Delete - per nomination. Anotherclown (talk) 13:09, 24 December 2011 (UTC)
 * Delete as per nom and redundant to List of camouflage patterns. -- P 1 9 9 • TALK 20:45, 30 December 2011 (UTC)
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