Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/List of organisations in Irish Language Movement


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The result was keep. Renaming is an editorial matter.  Sandstein  06:45, 19 May 2018 (UTC)

List of organisations in Irish Language Movement

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There is no such thing as the Irish Language Movement as organisation. It is just a coat rack. The Banner talk 07:47, 12 May 2018 (UTC)
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 * Comment. There definitely is an Irish Language Movement, and of course it's not an organisation itself; there are organisations active in it (that this article attempts to list). – Uanfala (talk) 08:17, 12 May 2018 (UTC)
 * Rename and improve: it's true that there's no distinct organisation called the Irish Language Movement, and I'm guessing that the article creator didn't mean to imply this, since it says in the first paragraph: There is no coordinating organisation or body for the entire movement. A list of notable Irish language organisations is a good idea, but it should be moved to a better title (without redirect), using appropriate lowercase per WP:NCCAPS. I'd suggest List of Irish language organisations. Criteria for inclusion in a standalone list should also be made clearer per WP:LISTCRITERIA: at the moment a sentence at the top of the list reads Most of the below listed organisations are State-funded in the Republic of Ireland and/or Northern Ireland including the six Foras na Gaeilge-funded lead organisations. If the list is going to include only notable organisations in the Republic and Northern Ireland, then the title should reflect this, but if it's meant to also include organisations abroad, then this should be noted either in the article text or in a commented-out entry above the list.  The Mighty Glen (talk) 09:39, 12 May 2018 (UTC)
 * '''Rename and improve." Certainly a valid list topic. UnitedStatesian (talk) 21:23, 12 May 2018 (UTC)
 * As The Mighty Glen has suggested I agree that the page should be renamed "List of Irish language organisations" or maybe better "List of Irish language promotional organisations". This way Irish language organisations outside of Ireland could be included on it and smaller groups would not be allowed be mentioned on it. Darren J. Prior (talk) 23:26, 12 May 2018 (UTC)Darren J. PriorDarren J. Prior (talk) 23:26, 12 May 2018 (UTC)
 * Keep since this an article about a distinctly notable subject, and a list that serves an encyclopaedic purpose. I fully agree about the above suggested improvements. -The Gnome (talk) 05:08, 13 May 2018 (UTC)
 * Can we rename it so? We haven't had anymore talk on this page in nearly a week and there is a general consensus that the page should be kept but renamed. Can it be renamed to "List of Irish language promotional organisations" so as I recommended?Darren J. Prior (talk) 13:29, 18 May 2018 (UTC)Darren J. PriorDarren J. Prior (talk) 13:29, 18 May 2018 (UTC)
 * Not just yet - as described at WP:AFD, "Articles listed are normally discussed for at least seven days, after which the deletion process proceeds based on community consensus." The Mighty Glen (talk) 14:08, 18 May 2018 (UTC)
 * The name advocated by mr. Prior is a good one. It means that half of the list can be scrapped...
 * A navigation template looks like a better idea, as that also prevent the excessive long lists of "see also"-subjects added by mr. Prior to many articles. The Banner talk 17:31, 18 May 2018 (UTC)
 * All the See Also links on the pages I have started are relevant to those pages and not just because they are other Irish language organisations and initiatives etc. I agree that a lot of organisations listed on this current page would not qualify as "Irish language promotional organisations". I don't know a lot about navigation templates but if it's a side one to be brought in I would be interested in seeing it. Darren J. Prior (talk) 18:06, 18 May 2018 (UTC)Darren J. PriorDarren J. Prior (talk) 18:06, 18 May 2018 (UTC)


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