Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/List of people and films from Classical Hollywood cinema


 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was delete. Malcolmxl5 (talk) 10:41, 15 September 2021 (UTC)

List of people and films from Classical Hollywood cinema

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This list is far too broad, consisting of a random "selected" collection of actors, directors, films, etc. There are a ton of people and films from the Golden Age (which, according to Classical Hollywood cinema, goes back much further than I thought, all the way back to the silent era), far more than can be accommodated in a single manageable list. Larry Keating, for example, is an okay actor, but why the heck is he here and not somebody (or a thousand somebodies) better known. This even illogically includes international films not made in Hollywood. Clarityfiend (talk) 10:37, 8 September 2021 (UTC)
 * Comment - this was created after a Talk page discussion at Classical Hollywood cinema. Pinging and, who were involved there, to give them a chance to comment. Neiltonks (talk) 12:43, 8 September 2021 (UTC)
 * Comment. Thanks for the ping, Neil, and as you say the list was removed from Classical Hollywood cinema where it was burdensome and inappropriate. It is certainly better to have it as a standalone list if it is to be retained. The key question, I think, is: "Is it useful?" No Great Shaker (talk) 12:58, 8 September 2021 (UTC)
 * Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Actors and filmmakers-related deletion discussions. — hueman1 ( talk  •  contributions ) 15:17, 8 September 2021 (UTC)
 * Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Lists of people-related deletion discussions. — hueman1 ( talk  •  contributions ) 15:17, 8 September 2021 (UTC)
 * Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Film-related deletion discussions. — hueman1 ( talk  •  contributions ) 15:17, 8 September 2021 (UTC)


 * Delete/TNT Too long of a context-free list to be useful. Attempting to include everyone/everything in the industry over several decades is indiscriminate and failing to highlight the most important entries and their representativeness of the era does no service to the reader. The main article and related period-specific pages like 1940s in film, 1949 in film, etc. are better, which should use prose and tables to convey key information rather than an overly broad list. Reywas92Talk 16:41, 8 September 2021 (UTC)
 * Comment I don't have any strong feelings about this outside of the fact that it didn't belong in the article. It's true that I did take the time to create the list by moving the info from the article since I do have some empathy for those who try to contribute; so on one hand would say "weak keep". But ... frankly there are very few "lists" that I find useful on wiki, so on that other hand, I'd likely feel weak delete.  At the end of the day I really don't care much how this XfD turns out.  I do appreciate the notification and the pings however, so on that "third hand" I offer a thank you. — Ched (talk) 18:58, 8 September 2021 (UTC)
 * Delete WP:HTRIVIA. Other than for trivia game answers, I see no reason for this to exist. -- rsjaffe 🗩 🖉 23:17, 8 September 2021 (UTC)
 * Delete - this is WP:LISTCRUFT and WP:INDISCRIMINATE. This is not useful even for the purpose of navigation and would be better split into two categories. Also falls into problems with WP:LISTN and WP:NPOV due to the use of "important figures in the era" and "selected notable films". Although this is probably WP:FIXABLE, the heavy reliance on one (not exactly reliable) source is not a good look either. Vladimir.copic (talk) 00:52, 9 September 2021 (UTC)
 * Delete per everyone else above, though this will inevitably get brigaded by the indiscriminate list rescue squad. Or maybe it’s too terrible even for them, I don’t know. Dronebogus (talk) 10:17, 14 September 2021 (UTC)


 * The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.