Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/List of people killed during Euromaidan (2nd nomination)


 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was keep. (non-admin closure)  Ya  sh  !   00:01, 16 February 2016 (UTC)

List of people killed during Euromaidan
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Victims of the November 2015 Paris attacks was deleted on December 20th, mainly per WP:NOTMEMORIAL. You can also "take a pick" from the WOLF  child 's brilliant list back in the other AfD discussion (WP:BIO1E, WP:BLP, WP:NLIST, WP:VICTIM, WP:ONEEVENT, WP:UNDUE, WP:N, WP:NOTNEWS, WP:INDISCRIMINATE). While I don't necessarily agree with most of the arguments there, I see no reason why this article shouldn't be deleted as well. Fitzcarmalan (talk) 15:12, 1 February 2016 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Lists of people-related deletion discussions. Shawn in Montreal (talk) 20:15, 1 February 2016 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Ukraine-related deletion discussions. Shawn in Montreal (talk) 20:15, 1 February 2016 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Politics-related deletion discussions. Shawn in Montreal (talk) 20:15, 1 February 2016 (UTC)

 Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
 * Delete This turns into an indiscriminate list, which is something we avoid on Wikipedia.John Pack Lambert (talk) 04:24, 2 February 2016 (UTC)

Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, — UY Scuti Talk  18:19, 8 February 2016 (UTC)
 * Delete perhaps at best as this would seem acceptable but it may simply be best mentioned through the main article. Notifying 1st AfDers, , , and .  SwisterTwister   talk  02:55, 9 February 2016 (UTC)
 * Keep and Rename The term "Heavenly Hundred", which refers to the killed Euromaidan protestors, has gotten some substantial coverage in English sources, the Ukrainian government has named an award after them and several memorials have been built. As such, I'm not particularly convinced by indiscriminate arguments, since many of the deceased fall within a clearly defined and notable group. I think it would be preferable for the article to be written primarily about the Heavenly Hundred with a list of the specific members attached under a collapsible at the end. If we wanted to go this route, then a lot of the information needed to build an article about the Heavenly Hundred already exists within the current article; we'd just need to re-arrange, re-word and snip a few things here and there, plus do some general clean-up. Spirit of Eagle (talk) 04:28, 9 February 2016 (UTC)
 * Keep - Each individual in the article's sourced and it's a lot more than just a list, There's all of the history included as well, I have to agree with my previous !vote ... It's well sources and it still passes GNG... – Davey 2010 Talk 00:13, 15 February 2016 (UTC)
 * Keep - I think it should be renamed to "Heavenly Hundred" because it is the common name for these people and ussualy these people are mentioned as "Heavenly Hundred". There are some reasons to keep the article:
 * 1) This article is about the extremely notable thing in history of Ukraine. These people changed history of Ukraine for a future century. Notability of this article is absolutely obvious: "Heavenly Hundred" have been written about and shown in hundreds, if not thousands, newspapers and TV-news in nearly every country of the world (in Ukraine, in USA, in UK, in Poland, in Germany, in Lithuania and I can write thousands of these links). It have been much talken about in whole world, and was on a front of ukrainians mind for the the first half of 2014. They been mentioned by many politics, not only in Ukraine, but around the world. There are even movies about them. The notability of this article is colossal.
 * 2) Nearly all of them were recognized as Heroes of Ukraine which makes them even more notable.
 * 3) It is not just a list, here are a lot of facts. In this article the list itself takes a bit more than a half of page with other half being facts, and there are enough facts for article to exist even without the list.
 * 4) If the article Casualties of the September 11 attacks exists, this article has the same right to exist.
 * 5) From WP:NOTMEMORIAL:"Wikipedia pages are not: ... 4. Memorials. Subjects of encyclopedia articles must satisfy Wikipedia's notability requirements. Wikipedia is not the place to memorialize deceased friends, relatives, acquaintances, or others who do not meet such requirements."


 * Mark this: must satisfy Wikipedia's notability requirements. This article perfectly satisfies Wikipedia's notability requirements. This rule is about not creating articles for any person dead and is the particular case of the rule of not creating articles about yourself or your friends.
 * --Tohaomg (talk) 08:17, 15 February 2016 (UTC)


 * Keep - It seems to be that some misunderstanding of the rules took place. There is clearly written in the rule, that articles about deceased people could not be created only if this people are not notable. Since there are 120 references on the page in question, its notability is undisputed.--Trydence (talk) 12:42, 15 February 2016 (UTC)
 * Keep It is not memorial list. Almost all of members of list are Heroes of Ukraine, so it is it list of notable people famous for notable event.-- Anatoliy  ( Talk ) 20:40, 15 February 2016 (UTC)


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