Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/List of people on the postage stamps of Finland


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The result was delete. ✗ plicit  23:51, 6 June 2022 (UTC)

List of people on the postage stamps of Finland

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Still completely unsourced and un-maintained. Still no proof that this is a notable topic per WP:SALAT. Prod contested with a WP:SOFIXIT rationale, but again, there's no proof that this can be fixed. Ping and  Ten Pound Hammer • (What did I screw up now?) 15:05, 30 May 2022 (UTC)
 * Note: This discussion has been included in the deletion sorting lists for the following topics: Lists of people and Finland. Ten Pound Hammer • (What did I screw up now?) 15:05, 30 May 2022 (UTC)
 * Delete per nom. This is something for another kind of project, outside of Wikipedia. BD2412  T 21:46, 30 May 2022 (UTC)
 * please explain further why this list of notable people from Finland's history, arts and society should not be on Wikipedia, whilst we keep and maintain random and unsourced lists such as List of people from Helsinki, List of Swedish-speaking Finns and List of Aalto University people. Bw --Orland (talk) 15:12, 1 June 2022 (UTC)
 * I don't think that pointing out that we already have numerous lists of people from Finland makes a positive case for needing an additional list of people from Finland. BD2412  T 01:23, 5 June 2022 (UTC)
 * Delete This list dates to 8 March 2003. That may be the same day the alos unsourced France list comes from. There are way too many postage stamps to make a comprehensive list worth having. People do not become notable for being put on postage stamps, either they are notable for other things, or remain unnotable even though they are on a stamp. Jean Baptiste Charbonneau is notable, but the reasons why have no relation to his appearing on a stamp, which is actually just because his parents were notable and part of a notable event, and he was there as a child, but his notability comes from events later in life, that are ignored by the stamp makers.John Pack Lambert (talk) 13:19, 31 May 2022 (UTC)
 * Comment If we do want to keep these lists in any form in any location, we should reorder them to list by year, not alphabetically. If there is any encyclopedic value to such a listing, it is to show the changes over time in decisions on who to portray in stamps.John Pack Lambert (talk) 13:55, 31 May 2022 (UTC)
 * Keep; all available evidence tell us that these people were depicted on stamps because they are important to the history and society of their country. No one gets notability from beeing on a stamp; but stamps indicate the role of a person in their society. That is why Fridtjof Nansen is the most frequent person on norwegian stamps, apart from royals. The discussion that Johnpacklambert opens is interesting, and is already taken care of in these lists. People like this locomotive driver is an anonymous representative of his profession, and is thus not listed in List of people on the postage stamps of Norway; because there is a difference. Bw --Orland (talk) 21:49, 31 May 2022 (UTC)
 * This article still has no sources at all. Articles like this need sources. On what ground do we limit the scope of these articles when we have no sources. Without sources this amounts to original research, and us imposing our own non-reliable source limitations on these lists. Your statement actually I believe makes the argument to delete this article stronger. Also if no one gets notability for being on a stamp, than you admit these lists are pure trivia and we should not have them. If some people who appear on stamps are not worth including, on what grounds do we have the lists at all. List articles need to be backed by reliable sources, and these are not.John Pack Lambert (talk) 12:09, 2 June 2022 (UTC)
 * Delete No evidence whatsoever exists that this does meet WP:NLIST, as already stated: not in this AfD, and not in the article. Otherwise, this and all similar pages fail WP:NOTDIRECTORY (as generally "Simple listings without contextual information showing encyclopedic merit."); and furthermore, because having this is definitively a WP:BADIDEA (as evidenced by the fact people keep citing the existence of these lists as a reason to keep having them even when they fail inclusion criteria), as Wikipedia is not a philatelical catalogue and there is no indication how this kind of page is of any broader encyclopedic significance. An encyclopedia is not an indiscriminate collection of information, even if it is true, and despite it possibly being interesting to a limited number of dedicated philatelical enthusiasts. RandomCanadian (talk / contribs) 12:25, 3 June 2022 (UTC)
 * Thankyou for linking to the article on Fancruft.John Pack Lambert (talk) 13:52, 3 June 2022 (UTC)


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