Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/List of people on the postage stamps of Vanuatu


 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was delete. Similar challenges in sourcing as the other lists which have appeared. I do not see consensus for a redirect, but if someone wants to post deletion, that's an editorial decision as there's also no one arguing against it. Star  Mississippi  02:21, 18 May 2022 (UTC)

List of people on the postage stamps of Vanuatu

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Unsourced since 2004, woefully incomplete. Fails WP:LISTN. It has no stamps of Vanuatu, despite the title (and the existence of plenty of stamps from Vanuatu depicting people), and the list of the New Hebrides is badly incomplete or wrong (e.g. lacks the first stamps of Elisabeth II, but also stamps of Prince Philip, William Wales and William Hodges). No evidence that this is a notable subject, and being looked at on average once every five days shows a total lack of interest among our readers and our editors. Fram (talk) 10:37, 10 May 2022 (UTC)
 * Note: This discussion has been included in the deletion sorting lists for the following topics: Lists of people and Oceania. Fram (talk) 10:37, 10 May 2022 (UTC)
 * I'm not sure how one rationalizes deleting a list of people on the stamps of one country, while keeping it for other countries. It was split in the first place because of enormous size overall, and country granularity seemed most logical, even if it meant some were going to be short.  Are stubby listicles needing work subject to deletion these days? Stan (talk) 11:49, 10 May 2022 (UTC)
 * There are multiple others at AfD already, but it isn't because it isn't notable for one country that this is definitely the case for other countries as well. For example, for Austria there exists a 1961 book "The People on Austrian Stamps. A Concise Biographical Dictionary, Etc", which may well be sufficient to keep it at AfD (or at least makes it necessary to discuss it separately). Fram (talk) 12:30, 10 May 2022 (UTC)


 * Delete This list lacks any sources. Whether other lists are notable is a seperate issue, this one clearly is not.John Pack Lambert (talk) 15:16, 10 May 2022 (UTC)
 * Keep The source is any stamp catalog, easily added as a reference as has been done for many articles of this type. But if this kind of list is intrinsically non-notable, then I expect to see nominations for the 170+ other members of Category:Lists of people on postage stamps. Stan (talk) 17:36, 10 May 2022 (UTC)
 * But that's not a source about this subject, that's a source about stamps (value, year, variations) where you decide to select one specific, non-defining, not as a group discussed element and turn it into a group. And no, such a lust is not intrinsically notable or not notable: for some countries, it may be that the subject has received attention, and then a list for that country may be warranted. Finally, there are already 5 or so other such lists up for deletion, and I'll probably add more ones later. Fram (talk) 20:23, 10 May 2022 (UTC)
 * That's an odd-sounding standard by which to decide the validity of a source, like saying that a newspaper is not a valid source because it has articles on many different subjects. What wikirule does that come from? Stan (talk) 15:15, 11 May 2022 (UTC)
 * WP:NOTDIRECTORY, WP:SYNTH, WP:INDISCRIMINATE: the stamp catalogue is not interested in the topic of "people on stamps", it doesn't group the stamps that way, it doesn't discuss "people on stamps", it is a cross-categorization which you can extract from a stamp catalogue. To use your example: newspapers are valid sources, but a list of "people discussed on page 5 of the New York Times" would not be an acceptable list, even though every entry would be verifiable in a reliable source. Fram (talk) 15:36, 11 May 2022 (UTC)
 * Redirect to Postage stamps and postal history of Vanuatu. Vanuatu has had a variety of designs on their stamps, but I don't see why we would specifically have a list of people that have been on them but not other subjects, and an absurdly incomplete one at that. Reywas92Talk 16:10, 13 May 2022 (UTC)
 * Delete, yet another badly maintained list with no improvement or sources in sight. Not everything needs to be listified. Ten Pound Hammer • (What did I screw up now?) 17:41, 17 May 2022 (UTC)


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