Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/List of people who died after being tasered in Canada


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The result was   delete. Shimeru (talk) 00:09, 31 May 2010 (UTC)

List of people who died after being tasered in Canada

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This is a very one-sided list; why do we have a list of people who died, but no list of people who have been tasered with no lasting ill effects? Fails WP:NPOV. -- RoySmith (talk) 17:45, 23 May 2010 (UTC) -- RoySmith (talk) 17:45, 23 May 2010 (UTC)


 * Delete per nom, and also fails WP:NOTDIRECTORY#6 "Non-encyclopedic cross-categorizations ... Cross-categories like these are not considered sufficient basis to create an article, unless the intersection of those categories is in some way a culturally significant phenomenon." There's nothing in the article to indicate why, if at all, this is such a phenomenon. Rodhull  andemu  18:02, 23 May 2010 (UTC)
 * Delete. WP:SALAT says that lists of people should include people who have an article and are notable in the category the list falls under, or if the person(s) don't have an article and/or is/aren't notable as per WP:Notability, then they still may be included if they are important to the category. Also, WP:BIO1E and WP:BLP1E. cymru lass (hit me up)⁄(background check) 20:31, 23 May 2010 (UTC)
 * Um, BLP1E? I'm trying to figure out how a policy dealing with living people applies to a list of people who died.  -- RoySmith (talk) 20:41, 23 May 2010 (UTC)


 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Lists of people-related deletion discussions.  -- • Gene93k (talk) 20:18, 23 May 2010 (UTC)
 * Keep Why do we have a list of people who died, but no list of people who have been tasered with no lasting ill effects? Because the police don't intend for you to die if they taser you, I suppose.   It does not matter whether any of the people or events individually meet WP:N.  With some emphasis on the first sentence of that, "On Wikipedia, notability determines whether a topic merits its own article."  Likewise, with WP:BLP1E (which is WP:ONEEVENT, a consideration for dead people as well, but not an absolute bar), that applies again to whether an article should be written about the person or event-- not whether the person should be mentioned.  ("When an individual is significant for their role in a single event, it may be unclear whether an article should be written about the individual, the event or both. In considering whether or not to create separate articles, the degree of significance of the event itself and the degree of significance of the individual's role within it should be considered.").  Geez, imagine trying to describe Jack the Ripper or Kent State if you could only mention the people who had their own Wikipedia articles.  Mandsford 22:44, 23 May 2010 (UTC)
 * I think there's a difference between mentioning otherwise non-notable people in an article dealing with an event in which they were involved, and listing such people in an article designed solely to list such people, as having the same property or experience. WP:SALAT cites, as an example "list of one-eyed horse thieves from Montana", and I doubt whether such a list would even be viable as a category, let alone an article, even if all of them were amply notable. Rodhull  andemu  23:00, 23 May 2010 (UTC)


 * Delete per WP:IINFO. Simply a list of non-notable people (with one exception) who happened to die in a certain way. Would be no different than List of people who died in high speed chases.  While there certainly is an elevated interest in this country over the risks - real and percieved - of tasers after the Dziekański incident, I think you would be better off writing an actual article on that than a list such as this. Resolute 23:43, 23 May 2010 (UTC)
 * Delete – I agree with Resolute that there is increased Canadian media interest in the topic of Taser safety, but it would be better covered in Robert Dziekański Taser incident, Braidwood Inquiry, Taser safety issues, or maybe a new article. There may be some WP:OR issues with tallying up sources and calling them "increased media interest". I think that the list in Taser safety issues should be cut down, rather than expanded with this list. Quilem Registre Taser incident was merged into this list after an AfD, so we should also consider what to do with it. Flatscan (talk) 04:23, 25 May 2010 (UTC)
 * Comment. Nominator complains that this is "a very one-sided list". Shamefully so, indeed, and this is not the only case! For example, there is a List of people who died in road accidents; why is there no list of people who had a road accident but survived? And what about List of people who have beaten Bobby Fischer in chess: why no list of people who have played against Bobby Fischer and lost? And so it goes, on and on. --Lambiam 23:12, 28 May 2010 (UTC)
 * This debate should not care about what other articles consist of. Rodhull  andemu  23:23, 28 May 2010 (UTC)


 * Delete per Rodhullandemu, as a non-notable intersection. Regards,    A rbitrarily 0    ( talk ) 18:47, 30 May 2010 (UTC)
 * Delete Sets a bad precedent (i.e - people who died from gun shot wounds), far too broad and open ended. Doc Quintana (talk) 18:48, 30 May 2010 (UTC)
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