Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/List of people who died in Alaskan aviation accidents


 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was   delete. Ged UK  18:50, 17 October 2010 (UTC)

List of people who died in Alaskan aviation accidents

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There are no similar lists for other countries and it violates INDISCRIMINATE.  Wackywace  converse 13:57, 10 October 2010 (UTC)


 * Delete per nom. Admrboltz (talk) 18:47, 10 October 2010 (UTC)
 * Delete as Wikipedia is not a directory of loosely associated topics. Armbrust  Talk  Contribs  22:54, 10 October 2010 (UTC)
 * Merge anything useful to List of fatalities from aviation accidents and the required redir is cheap. Exit2DOS • Ctrl • Alt • Del 00:11, 11 October 2010 (UTC)
 * Comment I'm more in favor of a redirect to Transportation in Alaska. Surprisingly, we don't have an article about the air travel in Alaska, where one out of every 80 residents has a private pilot's license, and, because of geography and lack of population, most long-distance travel within the state is done in the air rather than on the ground.  There's enough context out there that could be made for a very good article that might include mention of the events on the list.  Without any background information, though, it looks like trivia.  Mandsford 03:13, 11 October 2010 (UTC)
 * I would not disagree that location either, but you do mean a M&R right ? Exit2DOS • Ctrl • Alt • Del 05:40, 12 October 2010 (UTC)


 * Delete WP:NOTMEMORIAL. 76.66.200.95 (talk) 05:09, 11 October 2010 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Alaska-related deletion discussions.  -- • Gene93k (talk) 23:12, 11 October 2010 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Transportation-related deletion discussions.  -- • Gene93k (talk) 23:12, 11 October 2010 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Lists of people-related deletion discussions.  -- • Gene93k (talk) 23:12, 11 October 2010 (UTC)
 * Keep or Merge I was not going to chime in on this as the spirit of these forums should be more judicious. However let this be pointed out that Ted Stevens (whose name this person has no need or interest in using gratuitously) said as quoted in  that he expected perhaps to perish this way.  When Will Rogers died he was one of the most famous wits in the nation and perhaps akin to Bob Dylan a voice for his generation.  There is an established pattern of air crashes in Alaska which have killed notable people as well as others (such as legislator Arthur Johnson) which has established a pattern which begins to become a phenomonon (Hale Boggs again was a prominent congressman when he died and his death led to a shake up in the House of Represenatives power structure) and the man who replaced Ted Stevens in the Senate's father died the way Ted Stevens did and so did Steven's first wife.  So the whole thing begins to take on though not a supernatural tone a historical story line though caused by weather of a Bermuda Triangle. There is nothing wrong that all said with merging it into what has been suggested by another voice the list of aviation fatalitiesMasterknighted (talk) 00:07, 12 October 2010 (UTC)
 * Could you possibly provide a source that suggests there is an "established pattern of air crashes in Alaska which have killed notable people ... which begins to become a phenomonon [sic]" similar to the Bermuda Triangle? The Bermuda triangle is something which is established in international culture because of the high number of mysterious disappearances of sea-going craft and aircraft. Alaska, however, is not the Bermuda Triangle. If there is nothing to suggest that Alaska has gained a cult following of people who are interested in mysterious air crashes that just happen to have killed several people worthy of note, then the article should be deleted. But even if there is a group of people, no matter how large, that think the number of celebrity who have perished in the air is suspicious, then they are a bunch of conspiracy theory nutters. Wikipedia does not have lists such as these.  Wackywace  converse 16:34, 12 October 2010 (UTC)
 * You forgot the qestion mark in your opening salvo. Therein it is a phenomona not exactly like the Bermuda Triangle but akin in that a group of events have happened in light of a condition in a geographically demarcated area named by the United States, Alaska and that there might be an accident if one flies there or through there. Further notable people have died under such circumstances and the occurence of fatalaties of very prominent people has been a footnote in history several times over.  There is nothing wrong with it being merged either, perhaps it would have been better if it had been written as the history of Alaskan aviation accidents and it would be proviential should it serve as the genesis for an article as such (or merged as  a section or into a section in the article on Alaskan Transportation Transportation in Alaska.  ). Masterknighted (talk) 16:58, 12 October 2010 (UTC)
 * Delete This page reminds me of the old joke: "If it's not on Wikipedia, it didn't happen." As I previously stated on the article's talk page, in light of what's known on this particular subject, this page deserves to be deleted merely on account of being such a piss-poor piece of work.RadioKAOS (talk) 00:21, 14 October 2010 (UTC)
 * In the end KAOS this article maybe deleted but you will still be a very nasty manifestation of some agenda activated by something deep within your raison d'etre. I enjoy debate if this article could have been improved upon and redirected it would have been fruitful but perhaps it is like that proverbial bridge to nowhere now which perhaps it is your best interest to stomp upon.  Get a life direct your anger elsewhere and indeed the article would probably be better with a description of weather in Alaska  with then a history of accidents and then the effect on subsequent events by the loss of those who perished.  I did not think of this when i wrote it. This person was just trying to fill in a gap in information via a list such as are on wikipedia so that a correlation would be established for informational purposes. Obviously it could have been better thought through.Masterknighted (talk) 22:42, 14 October 2010 (UTC)
 * I'll try not to be so vituperative this time out. Here's the way I see it.  I actually live in Alaska, and may enjoy a perspective on some matters which exceeds what someone who doesn't live in Alaska and/or has no ties to Alaska is able to find via a Google search.  It would probably be a very safe bet to state that the number of people killed in aviation accidents in Alaska over history numbers well into the thousands.  Taking that into consideration, the article contributes approximately zero towards illuminating the subject matter.  In fact, all it does is mirror information already contained in List of fatalities from aviation accidents and the individual biography pages linked to the page.  If you notice my contributions, I've worked on a lot of Alaska-related pages.  My biggest complaint has to do with countless pages which have more to do with Sarah Palin than the titular subject of the page.  This is hardly that much more different than that.RadioKAOS (talk) 09:53, 15 October 2010 (UTC)
 * Delete. WP:NOTDIRECTORY - ¢Spender1983 (talk) 02:17, 15 October 2010 (UTC)
 * Delete -- I am dubious of the merits of this article. In a land as big as Alaska, "local" transport is (I think) commonly by light aircraft.  This thus almost become the equivalent of a list of people killed in car crashes, clearly a NN topic.  Peterkingiron (talk) 17:11, 17 October 2010 (UTC)
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