Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/List of people who have died of Lyme disease


 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.  

The result was trim and merge. Conscious 19:59, 27 December 2006 (UTC)

List of people who have died of Lyme disease

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List of not individually notable people. PROD contested by original creator, hence now on AFD. Delete. JFW | T@lk  22:57, 18 December 2006 (UTC)
 * Keep/Merge specific enough for an article for notable people. Possible merge to Lyme Disease as incubator. Just H 22:58, 18 December 2006 (UTC)
 * AfD isn't cleanup. Remove the non-notable people. -Amarkov blahedits 22:58, 18 December 2006 (UTC)
 * Comment afd can help facilitate cleanup by sparking discussion and interest in article. Just H 23:00, 18 December 2006 (UTC)
 * Yes, but its purpose is not to be used as a sword to force cleanup now. -Amarkov blahedits 23:01, 18 December 2006 (UTC)
 * People do seem to use it for that though...Just H 23:35, 18 December 2006 (UTC)
 * There is one case where you can do that. One. When there are no sources, and there are reasonable suspiscions that no sources exist. You can then say "Delete this, unless someone finds sources". But the people saying "This has remained POV for a month, time to delete" are wrong. -Amarkov blahedits 23:40, 18 December 2006 (UTC)
 * If there's only "one" case where you "can" do that, why do people keep on doing it, hmmm? Why isn't it "stopped"? Quite frankly, I wonder if there are any real rules to this place other than those people just make up out of the blue sometimes to be honest with you. Just H 03:21, 19 December 2006 (UTC)
 * Delete. The "source" is a memorial page on an unreliable source on Angelfire.  Since none of these people are otherwise notable, the list should be deleted.  —ShadowHalo 23:47, 18 December 2006 (UTC)
 * Delete. I can only find two notable people on the list: Scott Brazil and Diane Varsi. I can find nine notable people that Wikipedia claims have ever had Lyme disease (but haven't died). I have had a look in national newspaper obit. pages, IMDB, NNDB, FindAGrave, etc. Nothing. I don't believe this list can expand beyond a few (well sourced) names. A wider "List of people who have had Lyme disease" probably wouldn't be long enough to warrant its own article either. The author's purpose would be better served by finding reliable statistics for mortality and contributing those to Lyme disease. Colin°Talk 00:06, 19 December 2006 (UTC)
 * keep/merge: Per Just H.  Ombudsman 01:13, 19 December 2006 (UTC)
 * Delete. Non-notable people. Should be in a database somewhere, but certainly not a wikipedia page.  As for the notable people, they can be added as a (short) paragraph in Lyme disease. Ksheka 01:23, 19 December 2006 (UTC)
 * Delete. All non-notable people should be deleted from it. That will leave 2 people apparently. There is no point in having a list of two people. WJBscribe (WJB talk) 01:47, 19 December 2006 (UTC)
 * Comment There might be more out there, but for now an incubator merge is more appropriate, I think a keep won't work with 2 only, and I concur with WJB on that this list isn't notable heavy. Just H 03:17, 19 December 2006 (UTC)
 * Delete. List of mostly obscure people. Nephron  T|C 03:21, 19 December 2006 (UTC)
 * Pare down and merge as above. Non-notable people dying in a fundamentally non-notable way does not make them notable.  Wikipedia is not a memorial.  That said, it is not unreasonable for the article about the disease to discuss notable people who have had the disease and those (apparently two of them) who have died from it.  Should that section become disruptively large in future, it can be split to a daughter article.  Now is not that time, however.  Serpent&#39;s Choice 04:02, 19 December 2006 (UTC)
 * Merge as above - unless someone's going to go out and collect death certificates?! SkierRMH 05:10, 19 December 2006 (UTC)
 * Delete as there is nothin in here needed for a merge, and the sole cited source is unreliable. No objection to cited and verifiable inclusion of notable individuals in the article on Lyme disease. Guy (Help!) 12:43, 19 December 2006 (UTC)
 * Delete Lack of notable people, lack of sources, lack of point. --Folantin 13:51, 20 December 2006 (UTC)
 * Delete outright - pure listcruft, pointless. Not encyclopaedic, Wikipedia is not an indiscriminate collection of information. What next - List of everyone who's ever died of cancer? Also unverifiable and unmaintainable - what about people who died of this disease 400 years ago? Moreschi Deletion! 15:06, 20 December 2006 (UTC)


 * SAVE save svae!!! I DO have death certificates for some of them and Obits for the others. The important thing about them dying of Lyme disease is how many *different* wAYS they died yet all died of Lyme disease- the way they died IS NOTABLE- because they died in SO MANY different WAYS!!!! From the ALS presentation- from the MS presentation- from anoxic encephalopathy to the dilated cardiomyopathy presentation- from the sudden heart attack presentation- from the suicidal presentation- from the lupus presentation- from the Alzheimer's presentation- from the ARDS presentation- !!!!!!! It is a beautiful example of infectious disease!!!  That is the point- it is why there are all the autopsy reports included! It puts forth the myriad presentations in SUCH an illustrative way-- Sarah aka CaliforniaLyme
 * Creator of the article. JFW | T@lk  13:55, 24 December 2006 (UTC)
 * Delete - Wikipedia is not a soapbox. CaliforniaLyme is apparently using this to promote original research (a personal study into the way people die from Lyme disease).  The list itself is not encyclopedic, and the promoted viewpoint in the introduction paragraph may suffer from POV problems (such as the comment on how Lyme disease is connected to suicide).  Dr. Submillimeter 12:10, 23 December 2006 (UTC)


 * Comment I was bold and started to clean-up the article. I'm sure there are others than Scott Brazil out there. Gzkn 14:03, 24 December 2006 (UTC)
 * Delete per nom, agree entirely -- Samir धर्म 22:09, 24 December 2006 (UTC)


 * Merge two survivors of cleanup to Lyme disease article.--Steven Fruitsmaak (Reply) 14:13, 25 December 2006 (UTC)
 * Merge - As above. Tonytypoon 19:49, 27 December 2006 (UTC)


 * delete these lists are blightDroliver 21:47, 25 December 2006 (UTC)
 * The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.