Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/List of people who have walked the perimeter of Tasmania, Australia


 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was Consensus to delete There seems to be a clear agreement here that this article is soapboxing for an individual pretending to be a list. Chillum 03:59, 1 June 2015 (UTC)

List of people who have walked the perimeter of Tasmania, Australia

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WP:COATRACK, WP:SOAPBOX. Single-person list of people who have accomplished a non-notable single event, the event being "walking the perimeter of Tasmania": And so forth... &#8213; Padenton &#124;&#9993;  16:59, 24 May 2015 (UTC)
 * WP:LASTING Event has not had a lasting effect as it only finished a week ago. The article (in its author's version) makes no claim of any effects of the walk.
 * WP:GEOSCOPE No effects claimed, certainly not outside of Tasmania.
 * Delete per nom - I don't think it would even qualify for a stand-alone article about the trek, much less one disguised as a list —Мандичка YO 😜 19:37, 24 May 2015 (UTC)
 * Delete. I'm not convinced that this satisfies our inclusion criteria, and I don't think a list that consists of a single element is really helping anything.  With only one element and autobiography, it does come off as looking like a coatrack.  Once this becomes a thing and people outside of Tasmania report on it, we can recreate the list (minus the autobiography).  Another option would be to redirect to List of people who have walked across Tasmania, Australia, which seems to be more of an established event (though I have my doubts about that, too).  Not everything that's reported in the news is fodder for an encyclopedia article.  WikiNews is probably more appropriate for this sort of thing. NinjaRobotPirate (talk) 20:42, 24 May 2015 (UTC)
 * Delete I had not read Geoscope and Lasting at the time. I realise now this list should not have been created. Sorry everyone. Happy Squirrel (talk) 22:17, 24 May 2015 (UTC)
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This is not an article about walking across or walking the perimeter of AUSTRALIA, It is an article about the first person in history to walk the perimeter of Tasmania. These events are NOT related. EarthWalkMan (talk) 05:01, 25 May 2015 (UTC)
 * Adjust Title and Relocate the Article ( with some modification ). As far as the List of people who have walked the perimeter of Tasmania, Australia is concerned, It is understand that Wikipedia is an Encyclopaedia ( giving information on many subjects or on many aspects ). I agree that the title of "List" may not be 'Currently' appropriate, given that Christopher Neil Linton is the first person in recored history to have achieved this World Record ( one person does not make a list ), however, the information about such a World Record walk should not be struck from the Encyclopaedia as it is a historical fact worth preserving and noting within an encyclopaedia, including Wikipedia. I am new to wikipedia and will learn as I go. So, what I suggest, that should satisfy the interlectual critics, is to adjust the title to reflect the historical event until such time that others complete the perimeter walk of Tasmania and then the article can be re-titled, resubmitted, and/or relocated. As editers, we should not only edit and suggest deletion, but should also advice as to how information can be maintained in an appropriate manner ( not just delete and have important facts disappear into cyber-space ). Does anyone have a suggestion as to how this historical event can be listed appropriately? Can it be titled "People who have walked the perimeter of Tasmania, Australia" or "Walking the perimeter of Tasmania, Australia" It seems to me that a solution can be found rather than a complete deletion. If wikipedia is to be an encyclopedia of facts, then there should be a space for this kind of historical event somewhere within the Encyclopaedia. Researchers, such as students and adventurers who may want to write an article or even challenge such records by walking it quicker and achieve like adventures for themselves will research these kinds of facts and wikipedia is often the first place they try to find these kinds of facts. EarthWalkMan (talk) 04:40, 25 May 2015 (UTC)


 * This isn't really a world record either. Guinness is quite reputable in these sorts of things, and they have several walking distance related records.  Linton has a long way to go.
 * George Meegan 19,019 miles (30,608 km)
 * First circumnavigation: Dave Kunst 23,250 km (14,450 miles)
 * &#8213; Padenton &#124;&#9993;  04:58, 25 May 2015 (UTC)

Walking the perimeter of Tasmania certainly is a world record and officially recognised as such, needless to say, the discussion is not about a world record but about a person walking the perimeter of Tasmania. the World Record aspect can be referenced in due course.

What is a world record ( taken from Guinness's own website: What is a 'world' record?

World Records must fulfil some key criteria including ( in regard to the Tasmanian walk ):

1. Measurable - Is it the fastest / longest / heaviest / most? ( Longest, Yes ) 2. Breakable - Can the record be broken or repeated by someone else, open to being challenged. ( YES, people can do it quicker ) 3. Standardizable - Can the record title be done universally? For example, it cannot be related to something restricted to a region. ( Debatable ) 4. Verifiable - Can the claim be proven? For example, a claim such as ‘the man who never drank water’, can never be verified unless the man spent his whole life from birth under surveillance by a witness. ( Yes, it has been verified ) 4. One Variable – We can verify the Largest painting but would not consider the largest painting by the most people. ( Yes, it has ) 5. Absolute records not categories - For example, Fastest 100metre sprint but not the fastest 100 metre sprint by a Fireman. ( Yes ) 6. Universal - The proposal must be something, or about something that is known to the world’s majority. It cannot be too specific / regional. ( Debatable )

Walking across Australia or walking the perimeter of Australia is NOT the same thing or connected to walking the perimeter of Tasmania. They are different records, different activities. The walk around Tasmania has been completed and has been officially acknowledged as a world record. Linton has no need to go further. It is a completed record. See also www.earthwalkcommunity.com/media-coverage ( see TV News clips ). EarthWalkMan (talk) 05:06, 25 May 2015 (UTC)
 * Comment - guessing by your username, are you by chance Christopher Neil "Earth-Walk Man" Linton?  —Мандичка YO 😜 06:19, 25 May 2015 (UTC)
 * Delete - coatrack for an individual who is not notable enough to have his own article. . . Mean as custard (talk) 09:44, 25 May 2015 (UTC)
 * And delete List of people who have walked across Tasmania, Australia as a similar coatrack for a small number of individuals and the charities they were walking for. . . Mean as custard (talk) 09:51, 25 May 2015 (UTC)
 * OK,, I nominated that one also: Articles for deletion/List of people who have walked across Tasmania, Australia . —Мандичка YO 😜 11:22, 25 May 2015 (UTC)

Comment - the perimeter is a gross innacuracy and not even close to what encyclopediac text should contain - 'simply walking the roads' is no-where near what the actual perimeter is of the island - the article deserves less and less credence the more I have checked it. User:JarrahTree 01:34, 27 May 2015 (UTC)
 * Delete - ahistorical and unencyclopediac and soapboxing. In the 1800s and early 1900s various individuals traversed the island in a number of ways that are equivalent to and very much more challenged ways in comparison to the claims made in two articles/lists.  Tasmanian history and trying to claim a first do not match.  A large number of people in various ways have traversed the island in much more straightened circumstances through eqiuvalent distances and much more difficult circumstances.  I fail to see how it is something that requires 2 separate lists.  Tasmania, Australia is not local Australian or Tasmanian usage and does not fit either. User:JarrahTree 11:05, 26 May 2015 (UTC)
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