Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/List of political hip hop artists


 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was   keep. Discussion to merge elsewhere can take place at the article's talk page. – Juliancolton  &#124; Talk 00:16, 25 May 2009 (UTC)

List of political hip hop artists

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wp:or - This list is a subjective opinion regarding what constitues 'political rap', and such a cetegorisation is not verifiable from reliable sources  Chzz  ►  06:22, 10 May 2009 (UTC) 
 * Keep Article is in absolutely terrible shape, but sources such as, in addition to the Bogdanov book, all verify that this is a genre people have recognized for real, not just something a WP editor is synthesizing; they also identify and label specific groups as "political", so could be used as a starting point for populating the list (with a list like this you just need to make a ground rule that nothing can be added unless you can cite a source calling it "political hip hop"; that's a way to deter people from making additions based on personal opinions). See the main Political hip hop article, from when this was spun out, for more sources.  This article needs a ridiculous amount of cleanup, but that's not a reason to delete it. r ʨ anaɢ talk/contribs 06:30, 10 May 2009 (UTC)
 * Keep Agreed. Article needs major cleanup and suffers from some arbitrary list additions. But the Political hip hop article is clear, reliable, and sourced enough to serve as a guideline for the list.--Junius49 (talk) 22:00, 10 May 2009 (UTC)
 * Merge into Hip_Hop any relevant details not already covered. I'm not certain that the citations warrant titling a whole new subgenre of artists nor does WP need to be a random collection of lists. Ngaskill (talk) 06:12, 11 May 2009 (UTC)
 * Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion so consensus may be reached. Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Ron Ritzman (talk) 00:41, 17 May 2009 (UTC)


 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Music-related deletion discussions.  -- Ron Ritzman (talk) 00:51, 17 May 2009 (UTC)
 * Merge into Political hip hop to which it should be redundant. Bigdaddy1981 (talk) 07:48, 17 May 2009 (UTC)


 * Keep I created this page by removing the long list that was taking over the Political hip hop article. I'm not a huge fan of lists, but in this case the community was demanding one by creating it on the political hip hop page so rather then try to argue with all the other users who kept adding names to the list it was moved here. Anarchocelt (talk) 19:38, 18 May 2009 (UTC)
 * I know it would be a lot of work categorising them; but could one not use this list to fill out the e4xisting cats on your political hip hop page. For instance some may be socialists, other nationalists etc. Just a thought. BTW thanks for the info re. the reason for the pages creation -- I think thats always useful to know in these dabates. Bigdaddy1981 (talk) 18:48, 21 May 2009 (UTC)


 * Keep I don't see the subjetives edits. It can be fixed. --Volklodak 01:46, 23 May 2009 (UTC)


 * comment This is crazy. How can anyone subjectively decide what does and does not constitute a political hip hop song without it constituting original research? Meh.  Chzz  ►  02:20, 23 May 2009 (UTC)
 * If it helps, I've removed the groups without sources from the list. Some were sourced from their WP articles, I've decided to leave those in for now. --Ron Ritzman (talk) 13:16, 23 May 2009 (UTC)
 * The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.