Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/List of politicians from Bihar


 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was   keep. Keep both. Two arguments in favor of deletion were rebutted by WP:NOTDUP, many concerns also appear to have been addressed via normal editing. joe deckertalk to me 13:27, 11 May 2012 (UTC)

List of politicians from Bihar

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Six items is hardly a "list". This is not linked from anywhere, nor is it necessary due to its shortness. (Side note: An IP tried to nominate this.) Ten Pound Hammer • (What did I screw up now?) 21:20, 3 May 2012 (UTC)

I am also nominating the following related pages for same reasons:
 * §§AnimeshKulkarni (talk) 21:19, 4 May 2012 (UTC)
 * §§AnimeshKulkarni (talk) 21:19, 4 May 2012 (UTC)


 * Keep Both - These are incomplete list articles that can be easily expanded. Their focus is discriminate, and with improvements can be a useful guide for Wikipedia's readers. I've already begun improving the List of politicians from Bihar article by expanding it, adding sources and cleaning it up. Northamerica1000(talk) 23:52, 3 May 2012 (UTC)
 * Comment - The article has been significantly expanded from the state it was in at the time of its deletion nomination. The article has also been de-orphaned. Northamerica1000(talk) 01:20, 4 May 2012 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of India-related deletion discussions.  • Gene93k (talk) 20:17, 4 May 2012 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Lists of people-related deletion discussions.  • Gene93k (talk) 20:18, 4 May 2012 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Politics-related deletion discussions.  • Gene93k (talk) 20:18, 4 May 2012 (UTC)


 * Delete both: Category:Bihari politicians and Category:Kerala politicians already exists. §§AnimeshKulkarni (talk) 21:11, 4 May 2012 (UTC)
 * How does the existence of categories lead to the conclusion that the lists should be deleted? Phil Bridger (talk) 22:32, 4 May 2012 (UTC)
 * I was gonna propose to convert the list into category. But a category already exists. Hence opted for deletion. The current "improved and organized" List of politicians of Kerala is just giving their DOB-DOD. When a category exists, do we need to make an article just to keep maintaining it? In that case we also need to have articles for other 26 states and 7 union territories, (the UTs can be clubbed as one article). §§AnimeshKulkarni (talk) 07:50, 9 May 2012 (UTC)
 * For your creation List of Marathi films there exists the category Category:Marathi-language films.By your reasoning the list should be deleted. Please consider to nominate the list for deletion.Shyamsunder (talk) 10:05, 9 May 2012 (UTC)
 * That list has more information than just names of films in it. Aren't other columns visible on your screen? Also majority of the films don't have their own articles. §§AnimeshKulkarni (talk) 07:27, 10 May 2012 (UTC)


 * Comment – Also, per WP:NOTDUP, a Wikipedia editing guideline, "It is neither improper nor uncommon to simultaneously have a category, a list, and a navigation template which all cover the same topic. These redundant systems of organizing information are considered to be complementary, not inappropriately duplicative. Furthermore, arguing that a category duplicates a list (or vice versa) at a deletion discussion is not a valid reason for deletion and should be avoided." Since a new article has been nominated here, revised my comment above to "keep both". Northamerica1000(talk) 23:10, 4 May 2012 (UTC)
 * Comment – List of politicians of Kerala has been improved and organized. Northamerica1000(talk) 23:58, 4 May 2012 (UTC)
 * Keep The lists and categories both can co exist.Shyamsunder (talk) 07:23, 5 May 2012 (UTC)
 * Keep per shyamsunder.Pectoretalk 15:35, 5 May 2012 (UTC)
 * Keep For the last few years there has been very strong consensus that duplication is not a reason for deletion, and there seems to be no other valid reason. I don't know how many items it takes to make the absolute minimum size for a list, but it might depend upon the expandability of the topic; not only is this is clearly expandable, but I think 6 is enough in any case.  DGG ( talk ) 03:44, 10 May 2012 (UTC)
 * The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.