Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/List of politicians in Poland


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The result was delete and redirect to Lists of Polish politicians. RL0919 (talk) 05:28, 26 September 2019 (UTC)

List of politicians in Poland

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This page shouldn't be on Wikipedia. It's just popularity poll, highly outdated. Some politicians listed here are already dead others lost their power are forgotten. — Preceding unsigned comment added by OspreyPL (talk • contribs) 21:34, September 15, 2019 (UTC) (header repaired) Ajf773 (talk) 03:22, 19 September 2019 (UTC)


 * Delete. Unreferenced, outdated by over 10 y ears, and contains de facto a single table based on a survey in 2004 about which politicians to trust. Category for Polish politicians and article on politics in Poland should suffice. PS. This should also be redirected to the Lists of Polish politicians. --Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus&#124; reply here 02:40, 17 September 2019 (UTC)
 * Delete. Unreferenced, outdated original research and most probably fails WP:NPOV. A redirect to Lists of Polish politicians as well would be a good idea. Ajf773 (talk) 03:16, 19 September 2019 (UTC)
 * Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Lists-related deletion discussions. Ajf773 (talk) 03:22, 19 September 2019 (UTC)
 * Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Lists of people-related deletion discussions. IntoThinAir (talk) 03:32, 19 September 2019 (UTC)
 * Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Politicians-related deletion discussions. IntoThinAir (talk) 03:32, 19 September 2019 (UTC)
 * Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Poland-related deletion discussions.  CAPTAIN RAJU (T) 05:37, 19 September 2019 (UTC)


 * Keep/merge We have a variety of lists for most countries – see category:Lists of politicians by nationality. Redirection to Lists of Polish politicians might be a sensible restructure but deletion is neither necessary nor appropriate as this can be done by ordinary editing per WP:PRESERVE. Andrew D. (talk) 08:54, 19 September 2019 (UTC)
 * Delete, without prejudice against recreation of a redirect to Lists of Polish politicians if desired. As noted, this is not really an objective or comprehensive list of Polish politicians, but a subjective ranking of a few specific Polish politicians in order of their public popularity percentages in one specific public opinion poll 15 years ago — which means it's not current, not neutral and not encyclopedic. Wikipedia does not have any rule that "just redirect without deleting anything" is always preferable to "delete this and then create a new redirect" — we're allowed to do either thing depending on the context at hand, so the question of which one we choose hinges entirely on the question of whether there's any value in retaining this article's edit history behind the redirect or not. And the answer to that question is very clearly no, there isn't, so this should be deleted first and then redirected. We have no rule that requires us to preserve everything that anybody ever saw fit to add to Wikipedia, even if it violates our other rules: we try to selectively preserve valuable information, not to just indiscriminately preserve all information. Bearcat (talk) 13:58, 19 September 2019 (UTC)
 * Delete and then redirect to Lists of Polish politicians. The title has value, the content does not. postdlf (talk) 19:14, 19 September 2019 (UTC)
 * Redirect to Lists of Polish politicians. I don't see anything in the article that runs afoul of WP:DON'T PRESERVE that would make a "burn after reading" approach necessary here. There are no guidelines violations. Firstly, content from the result of an honest opinion poll isn't a violation of WP:NPOV just because it's an opinion poll: the opinions comprising the poll are subjective, but the result of the poll is an objective, factual conclusion about public opinion. Secondly, neither is the article unreferenced. The article identifies the source of the polling data, it's just not a very complete citation. The faults in the article are, firstly, a mismatch between the title of the and the subject, which is a list of politicians by public opinion of trustworthiness, secondly, that the information is dated, and thirdly, that the information may be more news than encyclopedia content. It's not out of the question that an encyclopedic article could be written on this subject, so a redirect is the best solution. --Bsherr (talk) 21:15, 19 September 2019 (UTC)
 * Delete and redirect per Piotrus and Postdlf.--Darwinek (talk) 21:24, 19 September 2019 (UTC)
 * Delete and redirect There is no retention value in underlying article (which is results of a 2004 poll of the most trusted and distrusted politicians). --Enos733 (talk) 23:12, 22 September 2019 (UTC)
 * Redirect: to Lists of Polish politicians. Kind of amazing that this has been here for 15 years. — MarkH21 (talk) 10:50, 24 September 2019 (UTC)


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