Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/List of pop punk bands (2nd nomination)


 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.  

The result was keep. Pascal.Tesson 00:12, 4 August 2007 (UTC)

List of pop punk bands
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These lists of bands are hard to maintain and verify, and categories can do the job. First nomination ended in "categorize", i.e. delete. Lots of other precedent is found at Articles for deletion/List of nu metal musical groups, Articles for deletion/List of melodic death metal bands and Articles for deletion/List of grindcore bands. Punkmorten 10:04, 27 July 2007 (UTC)
 * Delete, as per nom. List will almost certainly remain incomplete, and a genre like "pop punk" is really too amorphous and vague for a list.  A category would be better.  Lankiveil 12:37, 27 July 2007 (UTC).


 * Keep, as per norm. Almost every music genre has a list of notable artists. Either keep them all or delete them all and prevent the creation of any lists of musicians. There is no reason to single out the pop punk list for deletion, when (as of this minute) there are 114 similar lists.Spylab 14:19, 27 July 2007 (UTC)
 * Keep, lists and categories are both acceptable ways of grouping and navigating articles. They are complimentary rather than redundant (see also Categories, lists, and series boxes). These articles have an obvious, easy to verify connection and therefore a list is fully appropriate. --Cpt. Morgan (Reinoutr) 17:59, 27 July 2007 (UTC)
 * Delete Also think that being a band of a genre is a loose criteria for inclusion (WP:NOT) and hence should be replaced with a category.  Corpx 19:35, 27 July 2007 (UTC)
 * Keep Hard to maintain and verify, maybe; deletable, I don't think so. No one ever said that editing Wikipedia was easy. Your point about the deletion of other lists is ridiculous: "because this other list was deleted, this one should be deleted too" is really not a valid argument. Show me the criteria in the deletion policy that apply to these lists. ZOUAVMAN LE ZOUAVE  20:15, 27 July 2007 (UTC)
 * Precedent is ridiculous? Spare me. Punkmorten 10:00, 28 July 2007 (UTC)
 * Keep Regardless of what it is, this nomination is not grounds for deletion. At best you could ask for a better lead section and references. Lists are singled out with systematic bias, and it is troublesome. The arguments on lists being "hard to maintain" needs to stop already, as it has no basis in policy. The same with "will never be complete". People need to start nominating things based on policy. It's old already. (Mind meal 11:42, 28 July 2007 (UTC))
 * This whole list is WP:OR - Who classified these bands into this particular genre? I looked at the first 5 articles and they dont even explain the inclusion into this genre.   Corpx 15:06, 31 July 2007 (UTC)


 * KEEP: Should this really even be debated? it needs to stay (Tigerghost 10:32, 31 July 2007 (UTC))


 * The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.