Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/List of populated places in New Mexico by population


 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was no consensus. WP:NPASR per low participation herein. North America1000 03:58, 24 October 2016 (UTC)

List of populated places in New Mexico by population

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It seems pretty redundant. We already have List of municipalities in New Mexico which includes population for all cities, towns, and villages. We also have List of census-designated places in New Mexico which includes all census designated places and unincorporated communities. This third list is completely redundant. We can add population numbers to the latter, but it doesn't make sense to have 3 lists for the same thing. This page was chosen as redundant since it is an orphan article, no page on wikipedia links here. Mattximus (talk) 03:40, 1 October 2016 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of New Mexico-related deletion discussions. North America1000 08:27, 1 October 2016 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Lists-related deletion discussions. North America1000 08:27, 1 October 2016 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Geography-related deletion discussions. North America1000 08:27, 1 October 2016 (UTC)


 * Comment. I'm not sure about this.
 * 1. The list provides functionality of sorting across all populated places, which the two other lists would not provide. And there is a lot of overlap between sizes of CDPs vs. towns:  e.g. the CDP of Bernalillo(sp?) has 44,000 population, way up there.
 * 2. Contrary to the assertion in the nomination that it is an orphan, there are lots of Wikipedia articles that link to it.
 * 3. Before making any change here, could we compare to how this information is arrayed in other states? If this one is completely out of line with all the others, that would strengthen the case for deletion.  What happens elsewhere does matter;  Wikipedia is pretty mature in this topic area. -- do  ncr  am  06:16, 4 October 2016 (UTC)

Thanks for the great comments. I'll response to each one.

1. Yes there is some merit to having a list that combines the two other lists, however New Mexico would then be an odd one out. The reason there is a division between incorporated and unincorporated is sheer numbers for most states, and that they are quite different politically. The lists would often be thousands if we combined both. All states have a list of incorporated places (this can be list of cities, municipalities, cities and towns, etc...) and one list of unincorporated places (CDPs). There is no real source or citation for unincorporated non-CDP that I'm aware of and none are included here anyway.

2. Maybe I'm lost but I clicked on a random page that it says links to it, Grant County, New Mexico, but could not find the link. In fact I haven't found a single page with the link to this list.

3. A few states have this, but it's by no means normal. But all states have the two main lists: incorporated and unincorporated. This would be anomalous as far as I can tell. I wonder why New Mexico gets one, but say Alabama, Alaska, or Arkansas doesn't.

My main argument is that the data is repeated 100% in 2 other lists, that are better maintained. It is completely, 100% redundant content wise.

Thanks for your input! Mattximus (talk) 23:39, 4 October 2016 (UTC)
 * Re: #2, this page is included in Template:New Mexico and so is linked to every article that uses that template. So not an orphan at all. postdlf (talk) 13:23, 18 October 2016 (UTC)

 Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.

Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Lankiveil (speak to me) 05:33, 9 October 2016 (UTC)  Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.

Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, North America1000 08:04, 17 October 2016 (UTC)


 * Keep This type of lists and tables are a regular part of WP. This one is short and clear enough to be useful to readers.  I don't see a logical or policy reason to delete.  There is no requirement that all states have the same treatment, and even if so who says having two lists is better? Kitfoxxe (talk) 11:27, 17 October 2016 (UTC)
 * Well the main point is that all the information is 100% duplicated, and this page is an orphan... so it's not useful. Mattximus (talk) 21:38, 17 October 2016 (UTC)
 * See above; not an orphan. postdlf (talk) 13:23, 18 October 2016 (UTC)
 * Thanks for linking me to the template. I've updated the template replacing the link with the format of other states (one for municipalities, one for unincorporated places). So now I do believe it is an orphan. Mattximus (talk) 23:10, 18 October 2016 (UTC)


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