Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/List of post-nominal letters (Vatican City)


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The result was delete. Liz Read! Talk! 04:24, 11 August 2022 (UTC)

List of post-nominal letters (Vatican City)

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These are not post-nominals of Vatican City. Rather they are initials that indicate membership in religious orders, institutes, or societies. So this article is sort of a species of hoax or nonsense. There's no reason to keep/move this page, as its actual topic is already covered at List of religious institutes. There are theoretically post-nominals for the Holy See, but they're not covered in this article at all, so it would be best to delete this and if that article is desired to start it from scratch. Jahaza (talk) 04:38, 4 August 2022 (UTC)
 * Note: This discussion has been included in the deletion sorting lists for the following topics: Europe and Christianity. Jahaza (talk) 04:51, 4 August 2022 (UTC)
 * keep. Nomination without merit. The article Post-nominal letters says in part: ... or is a member of a religious institute or fraternity. Loew Galitz (talk) 05:39, 4 August 2022 (UTC)
 * P.S. On the other hand, I've just noticed that the article is unreferenced, and hence there is no evidence that these post-noms are specific for Vatican City and not applied all over the Catholic world. Therefore for now my vote is conditional delete.Loew Galitz (talk) 05:43, 4 August 2022 (UTC)


 * delete. These are not unique to Vatican City and are used world wide.Dcheney (talk) 07:01, 4 August 2022 (UTC)
 * Merge/Redirect: The list is part of a series "List of post-nominal letters", though this unsourced list is inferior to the list of religious institutes. –Zfish118⋉talk 12:12, 4 August 2022 (UTC)
 * Sorry, we cannot merge unsourced information. Also, the confusing title becomes preserved. Loew Galitz (talk) 16:37, 4 August 2022 (UTC)
 * I specifically mean cross referencing with the orders list; if orders are missing, then appropriately sourced entries can be added. –Zfish118⋉talk 18:13, 4 August 2022 (UTC)
 * Comment, Maybe amend the title to something more accurate and tag for sources. Manannan67 (talk) 20:11, 4 August 2022 (UTC)
 * Delete. This seems to be entirely misplaced and does not belong among the other listed articles. The Holy See bestows post-nominals for quite different reasons than other sovereign nations. Also, this was an unsourced and woefully incomplete list. In other words, per all of the above. Elizium23 (talk) 09:02, 6 August 2022 (UTC)
 * Redirect to List of religious institutes. These are clearly post-nominals relating to Catholic orders, etc, applicable generally, not merely in the Vatican.  The present title seems designed to equate the Vatican to a nation state, which it technically is, but it is largely an enclave largely without native citizens.  Please do not bite: this is not intended as an insult to it.  Peterkingiron (talk) 18:27, 7 August 2022 (UTC)
 * Delete Per nom. The text does not match the title: it is not only for Vatican. NMasiha (talk) 09:51, 8 August 2022 (UTC)
 * Delete per nom. ~ Pbritti (talk) 21:40, 8 August 2022 (UTC)
 * Delete - for reasons set out by nominator. MaxnaCarta (talk) 01:54, 11 August 2022 (UTC)


 * The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.