Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/List of postal codes in Austria

 This page is an archive of the discussion about the proposed deletion of the article below. This page is no longer live. Further comments should be made on the article's talk page rather than here so that this page is preserved as an historic record. The result of the debate was no consensus. – ABCD 02:12, 20 Apr 2005 (UTC)

List of postal codes in Austria
User:Minirich has been using this article and others as a depository for Austrian postal codes. This is not encyclopedic, Wikipedia is not a postal code database. Some of the articles were just given numbers as names, see for example: 7300 - 7399 I've speedy deleted about five such articles, and in a charitable frame of mind, copied information from the articles to User:Minirich/temp. But honestly, I feel that none of the following articles belong on wikipedia, not even the ones that are properly named. I'd like to delete the following articles:


 * 7200 - 7223
 * 7300 - 7399
 * 7400 - 7499
 * Austrian postcodes 2000-2099
 * Austrian postcodes 2800-2899
 * Austrian postal codes 2600-2699
 * Austrian postal codes 2700-2799
 * List of Postal codes in Austria Vienna
 * List of postal codes in Austria

--Woggly 11:46, 30 Mar 2005 (UTC)

Oh wait, there's more!! What an infernal waste of time:


 * 2000-2099
 * 2100-2199
 * 2200-2299
 * 2300-2399
 * 2400-2499
 * 2500-2599
 * 2600-2699
 * 2700-2799
 * 2800-2899
 * 7500 - 7599
 * 8240 - 8293
 * 8350 - 8399
 * Austrian postcodes 2100-2199
 * Austrian postcodes 2200-2299
 * Austrian postcodes 2300-2399

--Woggly 12:17, 30 Mar 2005 (UTC)

In light of discussion here, I'll amend my vote: keep List of postal codes in Austria, as there are similar lists for other countries, but merge everything else into it. I'd also like to point out that all the while this discussion is going on, Minirich is blithely ignoring all attempts to communicate with him/her, and simply continuing to recreate the deleted articles and churn out new ones:


 * 2413 - 2491 (recreated)
 * 2812 - 2852 (recreated)
 * 3000-3099 (recreated)
 * 3100-3199 (recreated)
 * 3200-3299
 * 3300-3399
 * 7000 - 7099 (recreated)
 * 7100 - 7199 (recreated)

--Woggly 08:46, 31 Mar 2005 (UTC)


 * Delete 'em all. Not encyclopaedic at all. Smoddy (tgeck) 12:18, 30 Mar 2005 (UTC) (In retrospect, reading that policy page Allen3 quotes, I guess that one will stay, but my vote stands)


 * Keep List of postal codes in Austria and delete the rest. The top level list is allowed by Deletion policy/Postal district, but articles on individual postal codes are not. --Allen3 talk 12:31, Mar 30, 2005 (UTC)


 * I agree with Allen3; maybe rewrite it to immitate List_of_postal_codes_in_Germany? (clem 12:54, 30 Mar 2005 (UTC))


 * These are certainly not speedy deletions. I think mass deletions of them are quite against policy, whatever you think of the content. It is factual. Charles Matthews 13:12, 30 Mar 2005 (UTC)
 * Hello, I've listed them on Votes for Deletion, not marked them for speedy deletion. The ones I did delete had numbers for names, no meaningful lead, and no content in English - three things that make for very bad articles - I copied their content to a separate subpage (nothing lost) and alerted the author. When I realised there were lots more, I came here. Why don't you vote, or make a constructive suggestion, rather than just complaining? --Woggly 13:51, 30 Mar 2005 (UTC)


 * Because you have been clearly violating the speedy deletion policy. Like it says, check for links first - that would have told you these were Austrian postcodes, just as it told me. Charles Matthews
 * And keep. NB we have pages like List of postcodes in Tasmania, list of ZIP codes in Rhode Island, not to speak of some British codes having individual pages. Charles Matthews 14:56, 30 Mar 2005 (UTC)
 * Delete all since huge lists of postal codes are hardly encyclopedic. If we absolutely want something like this, consolidate it all into bunches like "1000 series: Vienna" and so on and add an external link to the Austrian postal service. However, I feel honor bound to mention that List of ZIP Codes in the United States (Votes for deletion/List of ZIP Codes in the United States) survived a debate like this, albeit with a slim majority favoring deletion. Sjakkalle 14:00, 30 Mar 2005 (UTC)
 * Keep and consolidate as necessary, like List of ZIP Codes in the United States. Kappa 14:24, 30 Mar 2005 (UTC)
 * Per earlier consensus at Deletion_policy/Postal_district, keep only the main list for Austria, and delete the rest. I would say WikiSource except that WS doesn't want it. Radiant_* 14:33, Mar 30, 2005 (UTC)
 * Keep, but cleanup the pages and create a uniform format for them. The list seems useful, for example to see which places in Austria don't have articles yet. I suggest that there should be one subpage for each state. Martg76 16:33, 30 Mar 2005 (UTC)
 * Keep the main page and merge the rest in. --SPUI (talk) 20:58, 30 Mar 2005 (UTC)
 * Keep and allow for organic maintenance. --GRider\talk 23:59, 30 Mar 2005 (UTC)
 * Delete all articles about postal codes. RickK 01:06, Mar 31, 2005 (UTC)
 * Delete so as to artificially decompose. Postcode articles should redirect to the localities they refer to. Slac speak up!  01:29, 31 Mar 2005 (UTC)
 * Well, these pages DO link to the localities they refer to. Martg76 08:24, 31 Mar 2005 (UTC)
 * Keep, cleanup and expand. Megan1967 02:40, 31 Mar 2005 (UTC)
 * Expand? How is that possible?  RickK 05:05, Mar 31, 2005 (UTC)
 * All 32 of them? --Woggly 11:17, 31 Mar 2005 (UTC)
 * Keep main article on postal codes of Austria, delete the others. Capitalistroadster 12:34, 31 Mar 2005 (UTC)
 * Oh my God!!! Delete that stuff (maybe except for main page). Grue 14:47, 31 Mar 2005 (UTC)
 * Non-notability not established. Keep.--Gene_poole 01:31, 1 Apr 2005 (UTC)
 * Delete. Utterly non-encyclopedic. Jayjg (talk) 14:54, 1 Apr 2005 (UTC)
 * Delete. The criterion for this kind of thing IMO should be whether a more authoritative source for the same information is available elsewhere. Lists of postal codes are easy to find authoritative sources for (like postal service websites for the respective countries), and users will not turn to Wikipedia for this kind of thing, nor should they. Wikipedia is not a general knowledge base. That said, I've reconsidered my vote. Someone here said that Wikipedia has a clear policy of keeping lists of national postcodes. Since the pages are obviously not correctly named, I suggest that we keep the whole mass but refer it to Requested moves, which I gather is the proper place for addressing complicated mergers and moves. --Smithfarm
 * Delete. It is a sad day when deleting "articles" like these sees such hot debate. Indrian 00:07, Apr 2, 2005 (UTC)
 * Some of us feel that this kind of page is precisely the kind of navigation feature that makes it superior to rivals such as Britannica and Google. Kappa 05:52, 3 Apr 2005 (UTC)
 * Keep Agree with Martg76. Tim Rhymeless (Er...let's shimmy)  13:27, 4 Apr 2005 (UTC)
 * Keep, but merge with the main page, or find a more informative subdivision schema (such as by province/state). Some of these are in completely the wrong namespace, but it is a potentially useful list. The ones in the wrong space (ie: just numbers, or a numerical range of Austrian postal codes) should be deleted (not redirected), but only after the information therein is moved somewhere appropriate--Kieran 14:10, 4 Apr 2005 (UTC)
 * Keep - I can't see a reason to delete rather than Cleanup.--Irishpunktom\talk 14:39, Apr 4, 2005 (UTC)
 * Delete. List is not useful, and is impossible to maintain. --Carnildo 22:43, 4 Apr 2005 (UTC)
 * Keep main list, delete the others. PrimeFan 22:55, 9 Apr 2005 (UTC)
 * Delete - what next on Wikipedia - pages from the phone book ? Andypasto 08:01, 10 Apr 2005 (UTC)
 * Delete - Pointless spam JoseMonzako
 * Delete - but great for a sister project CoolGuy 00:23, 18 Apr 2005 (UTC)


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