Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/List of productions of the University of Canterbury Drama Society


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The result was   delete. Cirt (talk) 04:48, 15 October 2009 (UTC)

List of productions of the University of Canterbury Drama Society

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I fail to see how a list of plays put on by a student club at the University of Canterbury, Christchurch, New Zealand is not in violation of WP:NOT. The article was deprodded by its creator, with the argument that because the University of Canterbury Drama Society is notable (no secondary sources are in its article, btw), the list of plays is too. I have carefully checked; lists such as this are very unusual on Wikipedia; there are four, for three better-known (but still not the heavy hitters one might expect) theatre companies/festivals, and are, in my opinion, equally in violation of NOT#DIR. It would take some serious secondary sources, remarking at the amazing series of plays this club has put on, for this list to be notable on its own right. Abductive (reasoning) 21:17, 8 October 2009 (UTC)


 * Delete I'd say that a listing of student plays would pretty much be a violation of WP:NOT too. Without any proper sourcing (and university papers typically aren't considered reliable sources for play reviews), this should go. B figura  (talk) 23:47, 8 October 2009 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of New Zealand-related deletion discussions. - gadfium  03:17, 9 October 2009 (UTC)
 * Note This is potentially notable, since Ngaio Marsh was involved in the early years and there are numerous secondary sources on her. Whether they can or will be bought to bear is another matter. Stuartyeates (talk) 04:39, 9 October 2009 (UTC)
 * But that would make the Drama society notable, not require a separate article listing their productions. Notability isn't inherited, or in this case, transferred. If they're only notable because of her, then we should just have a list of her productions. -- B figura (talk) 04:41, 9 October 2009 (UTC)


 * I won't make a !vote as I have a significant CoI, having been the society's archivist. I'd just like to point out that I wasn't the article's creator. I found it in a fairly sorry state and expanded considerably. It is interesting to note that the list was created by splitting it from the parent article on the society. However it is probably too long to merge back. Modern productions (since the 1970's) have far less significance nationally than earlier ones, but setting inclusion criteria for a list of significant productions would be quite difficult.dramatic (talk) 07:23, 9 October 2009 (UTC)
 * Delete - a list of every production is de facto webhosting. Bearian (talk) 17:33, 9 October 2009 (UTC)
 * Delete, though no objection of a smerge of the more notable productions into the article on the society (which is definitely notable but needs better sourcing). Grutness...wha?  23:07, 9 October 2009 (UTC)
 * Semi-weak delete, per nom, but admittedly has some potential, Lord Spongefrog  (review)   (I am Czar of all Russias!)  15:24, 10 October 2009 (UTC)
 * Delete Fails WP:NOTABLE. Also fails on the not so recognized "Who cares" criteria. User:Nezzadar (speak) 23:12, 11 October 2009 (UTC)
 * About 90% of WP articles would fail that latter criterion, so it's not that reliable... Grutness...wha?  00:16, 12 October 2009 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Lists-related deletion discussions. Thryduulf (talk) 23:01, 12 October 2009 (UTC)
 * Delete Indiscriminate list, WP:NOTDIR. Glass  Cobra  16:28, 14 October 2009 (UTC)
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