Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/List of professional football players who spent their entire career with one franchise


 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was delete. clear consensus; the NHL list is in a different sport, and tho I think the same argument would hold, it should be nominated separately.  DGG ( talk ) 00:50, 24 September 2016 (UTC)

List of professional football players who spent their entire career with one franchise

 * – ( View AfD View log  Stats )

Per WP:NOTABILITY, WP:LISTN, and WP:ORIGINALRESEARCH. The article openly admits original research in the references section. The issues were discussed on the talk page nearly a year ago and have yet to be addressed, with the original page creator continuing to expand it. List of NHL players who spent their entire career with one franchise raises identical concerns. Lizard (talk) 01:55, 16 September 2016 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of American football-related deletion discussions. North America1000 02:06, 16 September 2016 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Sportspeople-related deletion discussions. North America1000 02:06, 16 September 2016 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Lists of people-related deletion discussions. North America1000 02:06, 16 September 2016 (UTC)


 * Delete both lists - These lists consist entirely of original research, and I express sincere doubts that there will EVER be a reliable source that will enable us to make this a worthy list for inclusion. I could be wrong, but I doubt it. Fieari (talk) 04:42, 16 September 2016 (UTC)
 * Comment I don't believe the "original research" argument holds water. I find it highly doubtful that the Wikipedia editors went to every NFL/NHL game played by every player on the list to verify that they only played for that one team. Looking up information published someplace else and then entering it on the list as a qualified entry on the list is not original research, it is editing.--Paul McDonald (talk) 14:12, 16 September 2016 (UTC)
 * Second comment the NHL list has not been properly nominated and no notice is on that page. I suggest a separate nomination for that list rather than attempting to combine it with this AFD.--Paul McDonald (talk) 14:13, 16 September 2016 (UTC)
 * Delete (NFL list) in spite of my disagreement with the original research argument above, I still believe this list should be deleted. WP:LISTDD provides a good source of do's and don'ts that apply to lists, but also the list article itself claims that 556 players have already accomplished the requirement to be on the list and that will naturally only grow and not shrink.  That's as pretty big list--I believe so big as to be unwieldy to manage by Wikipedia editors.  And without any discussion in the media about players that should be on the list, it does not seem to serve any real purpose as a directory or navigation aid (we call that "fail WP:LISTN" as noted above, to which I add failing WP:GNG).  It's possible (although I believe unlikely) that a category would be better.  I probably would not support a category either for this idea, but it would at least solve the size issue.--Paul McDonald (talk) 14:23, 16 September 2016 (UTC)
 * Comment - if this article is kept it should be re-titled, because I clicked on the link thinking it would be about real football ;-) -- ChrisTheDude (talk) 07:59, 18 September 2016 (UTC)


 * The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.