Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/List of progressive rock bands and musicians


 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.  

The result was delete.  Citi Cat   ♫ 22:13, 12 September 2007 (UTC)

List of progressive rock bands and musicians

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This list adds nothing a category cant Corpx 19:43, 27 August 2007 (UTC)
 * Comment From Wikipedia:Lists

''"Criteria for inclusion in lists

Lists should always include unambiguous statements of membership criteria based on definitions made by reputable sources, especially in difficult or contentious topics. Beware of those cases in which the definitions themselves are disputed. Many lists on Wikipedia have been created without any membership criteria, and editors are left to guess about what or who should be included only from the name of the list. Even if it might "seem obvious" what qualifies for membership in a list, explicit is better than implicit."''

Also:

"Inclusion on the list should be based on what reliable sources say, not on what the editor interprets the source to be saying

So as I read it, you need both an explicit definition for the list and a reference for each entry. Without those, it's just original research. MarkBul 19:59, 27 August 2007 (UTC)
 * Comment. I'll come back to this one later, probably tomorrow.-h i s  s p a c e   r e s e a r c h 22:30, 27 August 2007 (UTC)
 * Delete. Redundant to Category:Progressive rock groups. Dbromage  [Talk]  01:15, 28 August 2007 (UTC)
 * Weak delete. Works better as a category, and progressive rock is not objectively defined.-h i s  s p a c e   r e s e a r c h 12:44, 30 August 2007 (UTC)
 * Keep.  The list has been maintained by a bizzilion editors, not just one or two  All of these editors seem to be able to add progressive rock musicians and groups to the list and know what the definition is.  The list is also available in 5 other languages for folks who also seem to know what progressive rock consists of.  So to delete on that basis seems to be undermining a lot of work by the bizzillion editors from the page history in English wikipedia as well as the list editors in the other wiki languages.  If the English wikipedia list is deleted, are also all the other language lists also deleted? It appears that the article Progressive rock seems to define what musicians and bands should be included, and lists the criteria with definite musical characteristics, which are also discussed on the list's Talk page.  SriMesh |  talk  02:37, 31 August 2007 (UTC)
 * So, what does this list that the category cannot do? Corpx 02:46, 31 August 2007 (UTC)


 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Bands and musicians-related deletions.   -- John Vandenberg 02:23, 5 September 2007 (UTC)
 * Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion so that consensus may be reached. Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, User:Ceyockey ( talk to me ) 04:03, 5 September 2007 (UTC)


 * Comment No references is always a problem with lists. "We, the fanboys, know it when we see it" isn't good enough. MarkBul 04:44, 5 September 2007 (UTC)
 * Delete. This should be changed to a category. —Preceding unsigned comment added by CheckeredFlag200 (talk • contribs) 05:41, 5 September 2007 (UTC)
 * Delete Categorize. /Blaxthos 06:51, 5 September 2007 (UTC)
 * Categorize the musicians that aren't in the list of progressive rock bands into a list of prog rock musicians, and add any bands that can be verified into the existing category. As a HUGE prog rock fan and armchair authority, I find this to be a reliable source.--Sethacus 01:50, 6 September 2007 (UTC)
 * Delete Categorize it according to authentication by a reliable source. I thought it was just me, but about 90 percent of this list is nonsense.  The definition of progressive rock is clearly in dispute.  Yes, this kind of definition is subjective, but the description should be earned by consensus and length of history. [apsteffe at netwood dot net], 8 September 2007.  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 68.226.29.190 (talk) 17:32, 8 September 2007 (UTC)
 * Delete Duplication of Category:Progressive rock groups and Category:Progressive rock musicians. • 97198  talk  07:32, 10 September 2007 (UTC)


 * The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.