Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/List of rain affected Formula One Grands Prix


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The result was   delete. PhilKnight (talk) 18:25, 17 August 2008 (UTC)

List of rain affected Formula One Grands Prix

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After a discussion at WT:F1, the consensus is that the article violates WP:INDISCRIMINATE, as wet races occur quite often in Formula One motor racing. D.M.N. (talk) 20:30, 12 August 2008 (UTC)
 * Delete as indiscriminate. There are no reliable sources to confirm or deny any of these races and there is nothing to determine how a race would be included in any list like this. Would it have to be postponed or can it sprinkle for 15 seconds and still be affected? Tavix (talk) 20:34, 12 August 2008 (UTC)
 * Delete as indiscriminate. Wet races are far too common, and the sourcing is clearly going to be a problem, particularly with regard to exactly how rain has been a factor in any given race result. It's impossible to prove that a result was changed by rain. Bretonbanquet (talk) 21:15, 12 August 2008 (UTC)
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 * Delete per WP:INDISCRIMINATE. Too common an occurrence, lacks WP:RS, no explanation of how rain affected the results of a race (if at all). Doc StrangeMailbox Logbook 23:37, 12 August 2008 (UTC)
 * Delete. Indescriminate list, and original research. &mdash; Mizu onna sango15 Hello!  00:15, 13 August 2008 (UTC)
 * Delete There is no clear cut way to define "rain-affected". Unless the FIA itself releases such a list, this is simply original research. --Polaron | Talk 01:32, 13 August 2008 (UTC)
 * Delete. Pure original research. What is a "rain-affected" race? The best scenario for some skilled racers? The worst strategy in the worst moment? Or simply rain, absolute normal rain? Zero Kitsune (talk) 03:50, 13 August 2008 (UTC)
 * Delete Looks like the rain is turning to WP:SNOW. Potentially (?) useful information packaged in the most useless way possible.  Although an article about how rain affected a particular race might be interesting, this list does little more then tell me that it rained at least 15 times in Belgium during the last 56 years.  Mandsford (talk) 21:01, 13 August 2008 (UTC)
 * Delete I don't think WP:INDISCRIMINATE is quite the point here: whether a race is wet or not can make a very significant difference to its outcome (see 1993 European Grand Prix or 1999 European Grand Prix for example). However, to the best of my knowledge, there's no reliable source that can be used to conclusively say which races are 'rain affected', which could be anything from light drizzle in qualifying that affects the starting order of the race, to a race-long torrential downpour. Without such a source, this is WP:OR. 4u1e (talk) 09:34, 14 August 2008 (UTC)
 * Delete per others. The inclusion criteria isn't clear. Doctorfluffy (robe and wizard hat) 17:59, 15 August 2008 (UTC)


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