Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/List of real estate companies of the Philippines


 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was no consensus. TonyBallioni (talk) 02:26, 23 April 2018 (UTC)

List of real estate companies of the Philippines

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This list fails WP:NLIST, with no indication as to why its members meet the criterion of being a real estate company of the Philippines. There is also no evidence that the list as a whole is covered in independent reliable sources rather than its individual members. GeoffreyT2000 (talk) 01:13, 13 April 2018 (UTC)
 * Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Lists-related deletion discussions. GeoffreyT2000 (talk) 01:14, 13 April 2018 (UTC)
 * Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Philippines-related deletion discussions. GeoffreyT2000 (talk) 01:14, 13 April 2018 (UTC)


 * Keep, passes WP:LISTPURP as a navigational index of articles, and as a complement to Category:Real estate companies of the Philippines per WP:CLN. LISTN (what I assume the nominator meant instead of NLIST) has no utility here. postdlf (talk) 01:24, 13 April 2018 (UTC)
 * Delete per WP:NOTDIRECTORY. Article is simply a directory listing with no added value or significance.  Velella  Velella Talk 08:13, 13 April 2018 (UTC)
 * From NOTDIR: "Wikipedia encompasses many lists of links to articles within Wikipedia that are used for internal organization or to describe a notable subject. In that sense, Wikipedia functions as an index or directory of its own content." This is an indexing list of articles, and when it comes to notable companies there is no more basic way to index them than by industry and country. postdlf (talk) 14:34, 14 April 2018 (UTC)
 * The keyphrase there is "....to describe a notable subject." In this case there is not a shred of evidence that this list is a notable subject. The mere fact that each individual article has been deemed notable does not mean a list of such articles is notable. Notability is not inherited.  Velella  Velella Talk 16:58, 14 April 2018 (UTC)


 * The key conjunction before that "keyphrase" is "or", and this list falls in the former part of that sentence, not the latter that you've partially re-quoted. This list is not itself a subject, it is just a format for organizing articles the same as a category. So it is nonsensical to talk about whether the list itself "is notable". Seriously, try reading the relevant guidelines I've cited above. They will help you understand all of this. postdlf (talk) 17:09, 14 April 2018 (UTC)
 * Really? Could you try to be a little more patronising ? What ever happened to "assuming good faith" ? And yes I did, and have, read the guidelines - I too have been around for many years.  Velella  Velella Talk 18:10, 14 April 2018 (UTC)


 * I'm not seeing that demonstrated in your comments. postdlf (talk) 19:37, 14 April 2018 (UTC)
 * Nor I in yours. And please don't reformat my comments.  Velella  Velella Talk 20:15, 14 April 2018 (UTC)


 * Delete Wikipedia is not a directory.John Pack Lambert (talk) 22:17, 13 April 2018 (UTC)
 * WP:VAGUEWAVEs are not arguments. postdlf (talk) 00:41, 14 April 2018 (UTC)
 * Delete, without the article stating the notability of the group it is a directory and not a list, I've just googled for this article and there is nothing to suggest real estate companies in the Philippines has been discussed as a group, all that returns are directory results etc. Szzuk (talk) 09:12, 20 April 2018 (UTC)
 * Keep. We have many similar list articles. This is appropriate for both a category and a list--that there are sufficient notable entitites to include is sufficient, for a navigational device such as a list.  DGG ( talk ) 21:51, 20 April 2018 (UTC)
 * Redirect to List of companies of the Philippines. Everything except Italpinas Development Corporation and MRC Allied are already listed there. power~enwiki ( π,  ν ) 04:18, 21 April 2018 (UTC)
 * That's certainly reasonable. postdlf (talk) 15:25, 21 April 2018 (UTC)


 * The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.