Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/List of references in Neopets


 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.  

The result was delete. — Mets501 (talk) 04:12, 24 January 2007 (UTC)

List of references in Neopets

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Tumor filled with original research such as "One bird-like petpet resembles the character Fobs from The Adventures of Teddy Ruxpin." Completely fails at WP:V; we have no assurance that this article isn't a complete lie or that editors aren't grasping at straws. ' (Feeling chatty? ) (Edits!) 00:34, 18 January 2007 (UTC)
 * Comment: To be fair, many of the references do look legitimate, e.g., "All your 404 are belong to us" is certainly a reference to All your base, and many of the other quotes are obviously also references. That said, the article at the very least needs to cite all the messages to demonstrate that they actually exist in Neopets, and only those that are clearly references ought to be included. One could also argue that this is cruft. Neutral. Heimstern Läufer 00:48, 18 January 2007 (UTC)
 * Feel free to prove your assertions of "clear references" with actual sources. Your opinion doesn't quite cut it, no matter how "obvious" you believe it to be. '  (Feeling chatty? ) (Edits!) 00:50, 18 January 2007 (UTC)
 * No need to be so adamant. I have no real opinion about the merits of this article, I'm just putting out ideas to be considered. Heimstern Läufer 01:03, 18 January 2007 (UTC)
 * Things that can be easily verified by a person without special knowledge do not need citation. I think many of these fall into that category. (That said, this article is way too specialized to be encyclopedic, so delete.) &mdash; brighterorange  (talk) 21:55, 19 January 2007 (UTC)
 * Delete. The list is unmaintainable, and runs afoul of this guideline in WP:NOT, which dictates that we're not an indiscriminate collection of information.  There also lies the question of notability beyond the realms of Neopets - and while these are unquestionably interesting to an extent, is it really notable outside of Neopets? --Dennisthe2 01:11, 18 January 2007 (UTC)
 * Delete. Is this notable outside of Neopets? No, not a chance. Anyone wanting to keep this should transwiki somewhere else . --- RockMFR 02:13, 18 January 2007 (UTC)
 * Delete Most quotes cannot be proven to be unique to that game and obviously most of them do not originate with the game.--155.144.251.120 04:07, 18 January 2007 (UTC)
 * Delete ultimately this is the kind of article that will always be original research, because there's almost no chance that there's a source that indicates 1) that the lines are in the game, and 2) what they are in reference to. An editor has to make a guess as to what pop culture reference is involved, often a fairly obvious guess, but it's still the editor whose doing it.  JCO312 14:45, 18 January 2007 (UTC)
 * Delete as above. Popculturetrivialreferencecruft Bwithh 17:34, 18 January 2007 (UTC)
 * Delete WP:OR. /Blaxthos 18:03, 18 January 2007 (UTC)
 * Delete Its a pity to see such a large amount of work deleted that is also somewhat interesting. However, it should be deleted per WP:OR. Mkdw talk 21:22, 18 January 2007 (UTC)
 * Delete and Transwiki.... Philippe Beaudette 23:27, 18 January 2007 (UTC)
 * Delete/Transwiki - not meant for Wikipedia. Sure, some of the references are obvious, but they still aren't sourced and are tainted with OR. Dåvid ƒuchs  (talk &bull; contribs) 23:36, 18 January 2007 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been added to the list of CVG deletions. PresN 18:14, 19 January 2007 (UTC)
 * Hahaha, Wikipedians create the darndest articles. Except this one is full of WP:OR. Delete, then burn it with fiar. Axem Titanium 15:58, 20 January 2007 (UTC)
 * Delete in agreement with above.  Squids and Chips  22:44, 20 January 2007 (UTC)
 * Please no! *gets on soapbox* You guys may say that it is obvious guesses, but I recognize ALOT of them, and have seen many too ON THE SITE. We could show you exactly where the references occur, if you want, but if other people who actually PLAY the game saw this they would tell you this page is hilarious. For instance, I remember the "there is no jelly, only zuul," one, that happened a little while ago. I'm sure if you all want it "validated" then you could, I'm sure someone is willing to. We'll get the Neopets Team people over here to check it out...it is so funny, you just don't really get the point because you guys have probably never actually played. I have looked through the what-is-and-is-not-allowed list thing and I don't see why you should delete it, because this stuff isn't speculation (well maybe a bit of it) and think about it, we all have biases, especially for a website that has toys sold to mcdonalds, (except that little kids wouldn't recognize a quote from most of this, so it's obviously adults and teenagers who would see this anyway) and you wouldn't appreciate it like users would (who are not little kids). The Neopets Team often says funny things, and it is very cool that somebody actually made a list of them all. *gets off soap box* ok, you may ignore my ranting and go on with your buisiness now. 0:27, 21 January 2007


 * The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.