Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/List of reservoirs in England and Wales by volume


 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was keep. Salvio giuliano 22:15, 13 February 2023 (UTC)

List of reservoirs in England and Wales by volume

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 * Delete due to there being no verifiable citation for vast majority of the table. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Titus Gold (talk • contribs) 22:13, 6 February 2023 (UTC)
 * Note: This discussion has been included in the deletion sorting lists for the following topics: Lists, England,  and Wales.  Spiderone (Talk to Spider) 22:32, 6 February 2023 (UTC)
 * Automated comment: This AfD was not correctly transcluded to the log (step 3). I have transcluded it to Articles for deletion/Log/2023 February 6.  —cyberbot I   Talk to my owner :Online 22:36, 6 February 2023 (UTC)
 * Keep All the things listed have their own article, a list is more useful than a category since it allows more information, and all information can be found in the article linked to. No need to have a reference to every item on a list when its found in the articles its linking to.   D r e a m Focus  22:38, 6 February 2023 (UTC)
 * Keep, the information is cited and, however poor the citation may be, AfD isn't the route to improve this. In fact this nomination appears to be a retaliation/reaction to this AfD nomination. Sionk (talk) 23:12, 6 February 2023 (UTC)
 * Keep No WP:BEFORE. Very clear that sources exist for all of the content, and deletion is not for cleanup. Moreover, this is proposed on the back of Articles for deletion/List of reservoirs in Wales, the nom's POVFORK, which is not a good look. Not sure if that qualifies for a speedy keep, but in any case it is a very clear keep. Sirfurboy🏄 (talk) 23:15, 6 February 2023 (UTC)
 * Keep the citation may not be ideal, but it is still a citation. I also note the nominator raised this after their previous draftification of this article, for the same reason, was objected to and reversed. Llwyld (talk) 23:56, 6 February 2023 (UTC)
 * I have attempted to find the original citation but cannot seem to find the data. Titus Gold (talk) 00:06, 7 February 2023 (UTC)
 * The reason is that the Environment Agency are no longer curators of this data - the UK Centre for Ecology and Hydrology are. I believe that this is the third time in various discussions that I have made this point. Please don't ask me to make it again.  Velella  Velella Talk 06:24, 7 February 2023 (UTC)


 * Snow keep - this is a long established article which was subject to a deal of constructive discussion between several experienced editors in its gestation. The latest data set lists all the current content, and each table line is also wikilinked to its own article wherein are further references. There are some significant omissions such as Bala Lake, but omissions can easily be rectified. I can't believe any editor with any experience would assert that  the list lacks notability. Thus the request for deletion fails.  Velella  Velella Talk  06:29, 7 February 2023 (UTC)
 * Bala Lake is a natural lake not a reservoir (man-made) Bs0u10e01 (talk) 15:34, 8 February 2023 (UTC)
 * Keep meets LISTN Bruxton (talk) 01:07, 8 February 2023 (UTC)
 * Keep. Clearly notable. --Bduke (talk) 03:17, 8 February 2023 (UTC)
 * I fully agree that the article is notable but don't agree that the citation is sufficient. Titus Gold (talk) 18:19, 8 February 2023 (UTC)
 * Bala lake is classed as a large raised reservoir by Natural resources Wales. This confusion shows that this article is not properly cited. Titus Gold (talk) 18:23, 8 February 2023 (UTC)
 * Eh? How do you work that out. Llyn Tegid is on the NRW list, and it is on the Centre for Ecology and Hydrology's list, so where is the debate? It is simply an omission from this article (and there may be others). When this debate is done we need to agree a clear definition of what constitutes a reservoir in the context of this article and, having done that, ensure that the article is as complete as we can make it.  Velella  Velella Talk 22:10, 8 February 2023 (UTC)


 * Keep. WP:BEFORE would have turned up a number of reliable independent sources to establish notability to justify keeping this list. This arguably qualifies for speedy keep. Shawn Teller (talk) 02:31, 13 February 2023 (UTC)


 * The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.