Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/List of restaurants in New Jersey


 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was keep. Consensus is to Keep article especially after the nomination was withdrawn. Liz Read! Talk! 23:04, 26 December 2022 (UTC)

List of restaurants in New Jersey

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Unnecessary list; redundant to the NJ restaurant navigation template box which was recently created. Tinton5 (talk) 01:49, 18 December 2022 (UTC) Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Liz Read! Talk! 06:37, 25 December 2022 (UTC)
 * Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Lists-related deletion discussions. Tinton5 (talk) 01:49, 18 December 2022 (UTC)
 * Delete Agreed, it was useful when there was no navigation box, now that we have one, it's duplication. Oaktree b (talk) 02:12, 18 December 2022 (UTC)
 * Note: This discussion has been included in the deletion sorting lists for the following topics: Food and drink and New Jersey.  Spiderone (Talk to Spider) 10:16, 18 December 2022 (UTC)
 * Keep Per Categories, lists, and navigation templates, the editing guideline that covers the topic, lists and navigation boxes "should not be considered in conflict with each other. Rather, they are synergistic, each one complementing the others." and that "Therefore, the 'category camp' should not delete or dismantle Wikipedia's lists, and the 'list camp' shouldn't tear down Wikipedia's category system—doing so wastes valuable resources. Instead, each should be used to update the other." Sources can -- and should ---be added to the lost article, as well as greater context about the restaurants, but BOTH should remain, per policy, as there is no policy-based argument for deletion. Alansohn (talk) 12:31, 18 December 2022 (UTC)
 * Keep Nothing gained by destroying it. Some find it easier to read in list format.  A list also allows additional information such as what year it was founded, and what type of food it serves, to be added.  People are more likely to search for something based on the food type than just the location alone.   D r e a m Focus  18:36, 18 December 2022 (UTC)
 * I just put all the entries into the table format and added in some additional information to make the list far more useful than a category or navigational template.  D r e a m Focus  18:55, 18 December 2022 (UTC)
 * Delete, per WP:NOTDIRECTORY. Grorp (talk) 03:10, 19 December 2022 (UTC)
 * Which part of that are you referring to? Every entry links to its own article, except one which links to part of another article which has a section for it.   D r e a m Focus  13:21, 19 December 2022 (UTC)
 * Keep As there is a high bar for inclusion on this list (namely, the restaurant has to pass NCORP), that means that no way this list will include most restaurants in NJ (or for other states), avoiding it being a directory (which is meant to be more exhaustive and complete) and thus is simply a fair list. --M asem  (t) 13:31, 21 December 2022 (UTC)
 * However, I would immediately strip the three columns "Reservations", "Dress code", and "Alcohol served" as those make this appear more as a directory than a list. M asem (t) 13:32, 21 December 2022 (UTC)
 * Agreed. I was thinking about whether or not that should be there.  I removed them.   D r e a m Focus  16:43, 21 December 2022 (UTC)
 *  Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.


 * Do you still feel the way after seeing the changes I made to the article?  D r e a m Focus  07:27, 25 December 2022 (UTC)
 * Change vote to Withdraw, based on changes made by above user. Thank you for making these improvements. Tinton5 (talk) 07:48, 26 December 2022 (UTC)


 * The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.