Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/List of roads in Howard County, Maryland


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The result was   keep. &mdash; Joseph Fox 01:20, 4 November 2011 (UTC)

List of roads in Howard County, Maryland

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also nominating: as per WP:NOTDIR. these articles attempt to be some sort of street directory without a map. There is no encyclopaedic value just an alphabetical listing of roads. LibStar (talk) 12:45, 26 October 2011 (UTC)
 * List of roads in Carroll County, Maryland
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Maryland-related deletion discussions.  • Gene93k (talk) 18:26, 26 October 2011 (UTC)
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 * keep&mdash;per WP:LISTN. clearly this kind of grouping of roads is notable as a reason for grouping.  i don't see that NOTDIR applies here; the only possibility is #1, and this doesn't fall under that because it's not "loosely associated".  not to make an otherstuff argument, but consensus, e.g. this search, seems to be that lists of roads in a place are notable, even fictional places: List of Middle-earth roads.&mdash; alf.laylah.wa.laylah (talk) 21:13, 26 October 2011 (UTC)
 * Keep as indexes of encyclopedia articles about encyclopedic roads that pass through encyclopedic Howard County, Maryland or Carroll County, Maryland, and in furtherance of coverage of the transportation infrastructure of those two counties. These lists just seem to offend the nominator's idea of what kinds of subjects an encyclopedia should cover (see WP:UNENCYCLOPEDIC), rather than having any actual policy-related flaws in concept or execution (at least in the absence of an explanation of how WP:NOTDIR specifically does and should apply here).  A map would be a nice thing to add to the lists, actually.  postdlf (talk) 05:17, 27 October 2011 (UTC)
 * Delete. Pointless list of minor roads. Anything useful is already covered in the appropriate category. -- Necrothesp (talk) 08:42, 28 October 2011 (UTC)
 * comment&mdash;maybe read WP:LISTPURP for ideas on why category overlap with lists is considered a good thing to have in wp rather than a reason for deletion?&mdash; alf.laylah.wa.laylah (talk) 13:25, 28 October 2011 (UTC)
 * Thank you. I am fully conversant with the differences between categories and lists and usually vote to keep lists of notable subjects. However, my point is that this list is not of notable subjects, but of minor roads. Thank you for your concern. -- Necrothesp (talk) 13:43, 28 October 2011 (UTC)
 * thanks for your explanation! is "minor" vs. "notable" a well established case of mutual exclusivity?&mdash; alf.laylah.wa.laylah (talk) 15:28, 28 October 2011 (UTC)
 * In this instance, yes it is. Just as the roads in my hometown aren't notable, neither are these. -- Necrothesp (talk) 16:47, 30 October 2011 (UTC)


 * Keep. Per the above comments, this is a list of major, notable roads rather than simply a "street directory". It's also not indiscriminate, as counties are prominent geographic areas, so WP:NOTDIR doesn't apply. TheCatalyst31 Reaction•Creation 07:21, 29 October 2011 (UTC)
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