Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/List of rulers of Leqa Qellam


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The result was delete‎ __EXPECTED_UNCONNECTED_PAGE__. If any editor wants to work on this list, what there is of it, in Draft space, can ask for it to be restored there. Liz Read! Talk! 04:45, 30 April 2023 (UTC)

List of rulers of Leqa Qellam

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WP:UNSOURCED for 19 years + 1 item does not make a list. The only item on the list, Jote Tullu, has no page. The state, Leqa Qellam, has no page. It's a mystery to me why this rubbish has been kept for almost all of Wikipedia's existence. Nederlandse Leeuw (talk) 02:20, 23 April 2023 (UTC)
 * Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Ethiopia-related deletion discussions.  CAPTAIN RAJU (T) 07:10, 23 April 2023 (UTC)
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 * Delete Fails WP:V and WP:GNG, and Leqa Qellam itself likely fails GNG as well. Only hits for both Leqa Qallam and Leqa Qellem are Wikipedia mirrors; a Catalan-language Wikipedia article at ca:Leqa Qellam; passing mentions in the history of western Oromia; and unrelated topics, such as individuals with the same name. Results from Google Books are probably passing mentions as well, but I have not confirmed this. –LaundryPizza03 ( d c̄ ) 09:49, 23 April 2023 (UTC)
 * Delete not a WP:HOAX, as Historical Dictionary of Ethiopia (2004) has an in-passing metnion of Jote Tullu and Leqa Qellam. But that one mention isn't enough to support a list -- it does not even make clear whether "Leqa Qellam" is supposed to refer to a region or a government. Walt Yoder (talk) 16:11, 23 April 2023 (UTC)
 * Indeed, I didn't expect this to be a hoax, just not notable enough. Nederlandse Leeuw (talk) 22:49, 23 April 2023 (UTC)
 * Delete While probably not a Hoax, we should not have a list of its rulers until we have an article on Leqa Qellam. Peterkingiron (talk) 19:16, 23 April 2023 (UTC)
 * Keep. Passes both V and GNG. Should be converted into an article on the kingdom. There's no mystery here. The number of editors who care about Ethiopian history is a tiny fraction of the number of editors who care about . I don't see a notability issue. I can find plenty of sources in English. For example, Bahru Zewde wrote the biography of Jote Tulu for his BA thesis (which is still widely cited), although I don't have access. Qellam is also spelled Qellem and Qelem, Tulu as Tullu, and so on. Here is the Encyclopaedia Aethiopica article on the kingdom, where the name of the ruler is spelled Ğootee Tulluu (and he apparently has an article in the EA that I can't find online). Srnec (talk) 23:15, 27 April 2023 (UTC)
 * If someone wants to try and salvage it, they can do that (even though nobody has bothered for 19 years). For now WP:TNT is the right move. Nederlandse Leeuw (talk) 06:32, 28 April 2023 (UTC)


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