Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/List of rulers of Maravi


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The result was delete. SOFTDELETE per low participation herein. North America1000 05:52, 7 January 2016 (UTC)

List of rulers of Maravi

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No sources are given for this list of rulers of Maravi. None of the rulers mentioned are to be found in any academic articles on the Internet. S.J. Nthara in Mbiri ya Achewa (the History of the Chewa people) (1965) mentions the names Sosola and Mchochoma (apparently brothers) among a large number of other names of chiefs, but not as overall rulers of Maravi. M.D.D. Newitt in his article "The Early History of the Maravi" (Journal of African History 1982) does not mention any of these names. In short this list of names is unverifiable. Kanjuzi (talk) 17:30, 13 November 2015 (UTC)


 * Comment - This discussion page was created without the afd2 template and never transcluded to a daily log. Fixed now--I offer no opinion on the nomination itself.   Please follow the instructions at WP:AFDHOWTO in the future.  -- Finngall   talk  15:09, 15 December 2015 (UTC)


 * Delete - No significant evidence that it exists. Ueutyi (talk) 19:47, 15 December 2015 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Africa-related deletion discussions. North America1000 23:03, 15 December 2015 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Lists of people-related deletion discussions. North America1000 23:03, 15 December 2015 (UTC)

 Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
 * Comment - I don't quite get the rationale of the previous contribution - looking at available sources, there is no doubt that something that at least loosely and at times could be called a state named Maravi existed (and which in other periods seems to have consisted of a number of contending chieftaincies) and that some of its rulers used the title karonga or kalonga. And a verifiable list of Maravi's rulers would fairly certainly be notable as a standalone article - though if it were as short as this one, it might be better merged into Maravi. Having said that, the best source I have been able to locate for these rulers is this list - which, on available, could even be a copy from this article (though a copy in the other direction is at least as likely). Pinging User:JohnArmagh, who apparently created this article in something very close to its current form back in 2004 (and is still intermittently editing Wikipedia), to ask if he can remember what sources he used. PWilkinson (talk) 14:17, 19 December 2015 (UTC)

Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, The Bushranger One ping only 07:17, 23 December 2015 (UTC)  Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.

Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, — UY Scuti Talk  19:02, 30 December 2015 (UTC)


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