Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/List of saddest songs


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The result was   speedy delete. The sole author of the article has requested deletion. Sjakkalle (Check!)  14:57, 3 December 2008 (UTC)

List of saddest songs

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This list is not suitable for Wikipedia. Top "Sad Songs" is just repetitive and/or unmeaningful information. I believe it also falls WP:NOT. Vernon (Versus22) (talk) 09:38, 3 December 2008 (UTC)
 * Delete. I think the main problem of the list is that its original research, it is one person's subjective opinion about which songs are sad. Sjakkalle (Check!)  09:47, 3 December 2008 (UTC)
 * Delete as listcruft. Tohd8BohaithuGh1 (t·c·r) 09:50, 3 December 2008 (UTC)

A number of reputable music publications have published 'saddest song' lists. The list is subject to edits, and I believe there will be a consensus as to the ranking of these songs. Perhaps the preface article or notes I added could be changed to make the list consistent with Wikipedia's policies. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Mbradford (talk • contribs)
 * Delete "compilation of multiple published and unpublished 'saddest song' lists" is exactly what original research and synthesis of new information means. - Mgm|(talk) 10:44, 3 December 2008 (UTC)
 * "....according to individual forum posts across the Internet; which in this particular case, happens to be a valid source" - no it doesn't. Delete as unsalvagable OR, which could never be made "consistent with Wikipedia's policies" -- ChrisTheDude (talk) 10:54, 3 December 2008 (UTC)
 * I have copied the list to http://www.WorldsSaddestSongs.com. So I'll leave this Wikipedia page in your hands, and won't make any additional changes or additions until the page's fate has been decided :) Mbradford
 * Delete as listcruft. The site the list is copied from says part of it was synthesised "according to individual forum posts across the Internet". While that may be a valid method of sourcing for that site, Wikipedia requires far more reliable sources than some anonymous hack on the internet saying "Hallelujah" makes him cry. Ironholds (talk) 11:35, 3 December 2008 (UTC)
 * Comment Well, I'll have to say that I liked the list, and I saved it as a text file to my computer; and I appreciate that Mbradford has done a lot of work on this; and I'm glad that it will live on in the "world's saddest songs" site. That said, however, it doesn't comply with Wikipedia's rules against original synthesis, and it will be deleted for that reaason.  Seems harsh, I know, but it's Wikipedia's rule, and it's actually a good rule. Mandsford (talk) 14:54, 3 December 2008 (UTC)
 * Delete WP:NPOV hell. Mangoe (talk) 14:33, 3 December 2008 (UTC)
 * Delete.Please delete it and get it over with. I'll maintain the list on my own site. I was going to do that to begin with, but I thought that by posting it on Wikipedia, the 'vigorous debate' would eventually create a MUCH BETTER LIST than I could ever compile.  So I think that excluding this type of list is a disservice to Wikipedians.  But perhaps another format can be found for collaborative online development of a list such as this, where general consensus can dictate what the 'saddest' songs actually are :) Mbradford


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