Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/List of science fiction clichés


 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.  

The result of the debate was no consensus. Mailer Diablo 12:39, 20 May 2006 (UTC)

List of science fiction clichés
Wikipedia is not an indiscriminate collection of information, such as a list of supposedly clichéd plot elements and archetypes. Furthermore, the contention that each member of this list has become clichéd is POV, and contains large elements of original research. NatusRoma | Talk 20:19, 14 May 2006 (UTC)
 * Keep or transfer to wikibooks or wikisource. Very interesting and well researched list which should be kept available somewhere, if not on Wikipedia. Nomination marginally frivolous. Hektor 20:37, 14 May 2006 (UTC)
 * Speedy Delete per nom. Nomination is meritorious and not in the least bit frivolous, unlike these lists. Fluit 07:24, 15 May 2006 (UTC)
 * This is blatantly frivolous.Hektor 07:35, 15 May 2006 (UTC)
 * You're entitled to your opinion, and I respect that, but I think the nominator has provided a basis for his or her nomination. That merits an assumption of good faith. There is no provision for any criteria as to what establishes any entry as a clichés. There is clearly a POV element and it is valid to take the position that this article is original research. Contrarily, I've seen no one provide a reason as to why all clichés are notable. If there are valid reasons to support the assertion, then I am open minded to the argument, but saying it is so does not make it so. Fluit 20:24, 16 May 2006 (UTC)
 * Transwiki &mdash; RJH 15:42, 15 May 2006 (UTC)
 * Delete. (No other option makes sense.)  &mdash; Arthur Rubin |  (talk) 00:02, 16 May 2006 (UTC)
 * Keep article could prove useful with a little work and consensus. Cliche's are notable. --The_stuart 04:07, 16 May 2006 (UTC)
 * Keep all cliches.  Grue   14:30, 16 May 2006 (UTC)
 * Comment. Should be renamed to visual science fiction clichés, if kept.  Almost all of the clichés only apply to audio-visual renditions, rather than written science fiction.  (Besides, a number of them have been "explained".  In a space battle, the escaped air might carry enough sound for the battle noises to be heard.  Also, in that case, lasers beams would be visible.  ) &mdash; Arthur Rubin |  (talk) 17:22, 16 May 2006 (UTC)
 * Keep Seems to be a bad faith nomination as cliches are generally notable. - CNichols 19:01, 16 May 2006 (UTC)


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