Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/List of screenwriting "gurus"


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The result was delete. -- RoySmith (talk) 02:55, 3 October 2017 (UTC)

List of screenwriting "gurus"

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PROD was removed, addressing neither of original concerns: ''Article appears to be purely original research. The title says gurus, which is a value judgment unsupported by references. The actual criteria for selection appears to authorship of a book about screenwriting, which makes the title disingenuous. If the author rewrites the article and provides an authoritative secondary source for the list, I will withdraw.'' Didn't happen. Rhadow (talk) 19:06, 25 September 2017 (UTC)
 * Keep, but just those who can be sourced, e.g. Syd Field ("Screenwriting Guru Syd Field Dies at 77", Hollywood Reporter; "Syd Field, 'screenwriting guru', dies aged 77", BBC), Robert McKee ("Screenwriting guru Robert McKee on this year's Oscar contenders", Los Angeles Times; "Robert McKee: Hollywood's screenwriting guru on Breaking Bad, Charlie Kaufman, and the 'monumental' future of storytelling", The Daily Telegraph). Turns out "screenwriting guru" is a reasonably well-known term. Clarityfiend (talk) 05:59, 26 September 2017 (UTC)
 * Comment - Fine. Notice however, how weak most of the BLPs are that make up this list.  Most are tagged aready. Rhadow (talk) 11:44, 26 September 2017 (UTC)
 * Delete as WP:LISTCRUFT and for failing WP:LISTN. Yes, some people may have been called "gurus" in news coverage, but has this topic as a whole been a subject of WP:SIGCOV in reliable secondary sources? It does not appear to be so. Even the article notes:
 * "A screenwriting "guru" is a screenwriter, screenwriting teacher or author who writes or lectures about the craft of screenwriting. The term "guru" is a contentious one, not least because the word implies that these individuals are experts in the field and have much to teach aspirant screenwriters, yet few "gurus" have themselves achieved any success in the film industry and most are not known for their own screenplays/scripts."
 * K.e.coffman (talk) 05:48, 28 September 2017 (UTC)


 * Delete - As WP:SYNTH and WP:OR. There could potentially be a "list of screenwriters" but only if it is well sourced and adds some value.ZXCVBNM (TALK) 08:12, 28 September 2017 (UTC)
 * Delete, per WP:LISTCRUFT; no WP:RS citing and WP:OR, also applies. Kierzek (talk) 21:00, 28 September 2017 (UTC)


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