Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/List of secular law schools in the United States


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The result was   delete. Ron Ritzman (talk) 02:32, 19 October 2010 (UTC)

List of secular law schools in the United States

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Undefined, unreferenced list. At best this is a subset of the List of law schools in the United States, but clearly does not contain all the "secular" schools from the latter list. I don't see any point in trying to make the list more complete, because even then it would merely duplicate information listed elsewhere, nor is there anything in the article to explain the alleged significance of a distinction between "secular" and "non-secular" law schools. R'n'B (call me Russ) 16:24, 11 October 2010 (UTC)


 * Keep What's wrong with duplicating information? The information is held under a different name, so in reality, it's not duplicated, it's just ordered differently and as such is a different Ontology. As regards the secular, non secular argument, it may be important to somebody looking for information on secular law schools, who don't want to be badgered at a religious organisation, because they are secular. Its good encyclopedic knowledge. Knowledge that is sorted is much better than knowledge that is generic and unsorted. It's a good subgrouping. scope_creep (talk) 19:38, 11 october 2010 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Schools-related deletion discussions.  —• Gene93k (talk) 16:35, 12 October 2010 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Lists-related deletion discussions.  -- • Gene93k (talk) 16:35, 12 October 2010 (UTC)
 * Just thinking out loud here... I'm wondering whether this list is predicated on a POV, that law schools connected to universities that have no religious affiliation are different in character from those that do.  I went to a law school connected to a Jesuit university, but the law school was managed completely separately from the main campus, had a faculty that appeared to be mostly Jewish, went out of its way to provide multi-faith services to students...  It felt just as secular in most ways as the state school I went to for undergrad.  All of which may be completely beside the point, I don't know.  I'm just thinking that this list is attempting to say something by its categorization that may or may not be true of its entries.  Maybe it would be cured by renaming it to something like, List of law schools in the United States without religious affiliation, but as with the nom I wonder what the point of such a list would be.  Maybe just add a sortable column for religious affiliation to List of law schools in the United States?  postdlf (talk) 18:05, 13 October 2010 (UTC)
 * Delete Since a majority of law schools (and 100% of the publicly-funded ones) are "secular", this is a pointless exercise. Might as well make a list of U.S. Senators who are white males.  List of law schools in the United States would benefit from an extra column to distinguish between private and public universities, and, to the extent that a private law school has a religious component, a note to that effect.  Mandsford 22:44, 16 October 2010 (UTC)
 * Delete Pointless list, very incomplete, probably propounded by someone with a POV agenda. As pointed out by Mandford, probably 90% of the 200 or so law schools in the United States do not have a religious bent or affiliation, but this list contains fewer than 50. Actually, if you want to make the distinction for some reason, it would make more sense to list the ones that do have a religious slant. There are no comparable articles such as List of religious law schools, List of secular medical schools, List of Christian universities, etc., so you have to wonder what inspired this. If kept the name should be changed as per Postdlf, but there is no reason to keep it.  --MelanieN (talk) 04:18, 17 October 2010 (UTC)
 * Delete. The list has no purpose. U.S. law is secular, making it difficult to imagine what law schools would not appear on the list. (My best guesses as to what law schools would not deserve to be included are schools of sharia law, schools of Roman Catholic ecclesiastical law, and schools of Judaic law, but I'm not aware that any such exist.) Not only is there no purpose to this list, but I agree with the others who have pointed out that it's woefully incomplete. --Orlady (talk) 00:58, 18 October 2010 (UTC)
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