Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/List of service rifles by country


 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was delete. ✗ plicit  00:18, 15 May 2021 (UTC)

List of service rifles by country

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This article was created last month when it split off from the Service rifle page because some editors couldn't accept the fact an extensive list of each service weapon used by almost every country wasn't necessary. This article fails WP:N, WP:V, and WP:RS and user and I are both in agreement this article should never have been created in the first place. See main article talk page for more details Labprison (talk) 14:09, 7 May 2021 (UTC)
 * Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Military-related deletion discussions. Shellwood (talk) 16:55, 7 May 2021 (UTC)
 * Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Lists-related deletion discussions. Shellwood (talk) 16:55, 7 May 2021 (UTC)

Delete or draftify or stub or anything to make the current version of the article go away. It should never have been created to start with, the content was correctly removed from service rifle as a policy violation. That problem isn't solved by forking the policy violating content to a new article. To anyone suggesting "it's referenced", no it isn't. For example Afghanistan has two service rifles listed, the M16A4 and the M4A1. However the reference (and a country specific version of the same page is used for every country on the list) contains no mention of service rifle, or them being standard issue, or anything similar. What makes those two guns service rifles and not any of the others listed? Out of the 60 guns listed, sure there are handguns and heavier weapons listed, but even in the first ten alone there are these listed which could reasonably be considered service rifles. So why just the M16A4 and M4A1? What makes any of the guns on that list a service rifle? Nothing, so the entire article violates policy. FDW777 (talk) 17:18, 7 May 2021 (UTC)
 * Kbs wz.96 (Beryl)
 * Colt M4
 * Colt Canada / Diemaco
 * Colt M16A2
 * Delete for being improperly sourced, and for the given source not actually corresponding to the article's content. Loafiewa (talk) 17:35, 7 May 2021 (UTC)
 * Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Firearms-related deletion discussions.  Spiderone (Talk to Spider) 18:50, 7 May 2021 (UTC)

Agreed. Another user earlier tried to pass off blogs, forums, and even gun shop websites as scholarly sources. All of which had absolutely nothing to do with the page. This article should definitely be removed. 2603:3005:1898:8000:D47E:9530:1ED1:ABD2 (talk) 23:32, 7 May 2021 (UTC)
 * Delete The article is dependent on https://www.militaryfactory.com/ for sourcing, which is clearly not a reliable source (its entries on Australia and New Zealand are full of inaccuracies, for instance) and doesn't support the content anyway given that it doesn't identify which guns it lists for each country are 'service rifles' versus those issued in small numbers for specialised roles. As a result, deletion per WP:TNT is in order as nothing in the article can be considered accurate. Nick-D (talk) 23:55, 7 May 2021 (UTC)
 * Delete, all references are from a single source and source appears to be self-published and unverified. Ajf773 (talk) 09:50, 8 May 2021 (UTC)


 * The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.