Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/List of sexually active popes

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List of sexually active popes
I don't really see what's encyclopedic here. --Conti|&#9993; 16:19, Apr 27, 2005 (UTC)


 * Keep. Fascinating. I almost said cleanup, but that's (1) ambiguous considering the subject matter (-> and (2) already well underway, and will continue. See talk:List of sexually active popes and join in (the discussion). Andrewa 19:10, 27 Apr 2005 (UTC)
 * Keep scandalous. Klonimus 21:18, 27 Apr 2005 (UTC)
 * Keep an eye on this one for vandalism. &mdash; Teknic Talk / Mail 22:55, 27 Apr 2005 (UTC)
 * Keep; a definitely notable and distinguishing characteristic of a subset of historical popes. Teknic is right about the vandalism risk, but there's no more here than many other targets. Samaritan 23:05, 27 Apr 2005 (UTC)
 * Keep. I can't really see what's not encyclopedic here.--Gene_poole 23:26, 27 Apr 2005 (UTC)
 * Keep, of course. &mdash; Davenbelle 01:29, Apr 28, 2005 (UTC)
 * Keep this around.. Sexy Schoolgirl 01:45, 28 Apr 2005 (UTC)
 * Keep, and expand. Notoriety and notability. Megan1967 04:31, 28 Apr 2005 (UTC)
 * Keep --Cyberjunkie 07:26, 28 Apr 2005 (UTC)
 * delete - "according to various sources" - not confirmed, thus POVDeirYassin 08:26, 28 Apr 2005 (UTC)
 * Sofixit. I'm sure most of this information can be confirmed from historical sources. The parts that can't be, should be stricken. Keep. Radiant_* 10:59, Apr 28, 2005 (UTC)
 * Merge with Pornocracy. Pavel Vozenilek 08:33, 28 Apr 2005 (UTC)
 * keep please merging would not be helpful Yuckfoo 16:53, 28 Apr 2005 (UTC)
 * keep Priests have told me that some popes have been sexually active, so the general content of this article seems truthful. Jesus said he would make a church that "The gates of Hell will not prevail against"; he didn't say he'd make a perfect church. Samboy 06:48, 29 Apr 2005 (UTC)
 * Keep - 1) I'm not sure anywhere else would house this, and as social commentary it has value; 2) I'm pretty sure, if deleted, it will simply respawn. This is an "out of the bottle" --Simon Cursitor 07:10, 29 Apr 2005 (UTC)
 * Delete, unless there is some form of corroboration from a reputable source. "I'm sure most of this information can be confirmed from historical sources" and "Priests have told me that some popes have been sexually active" are not statements of proof. It simply has to be verified before being included as an encyclopaedia article. Jez 07:26, 29 Apr 2005 (UTC)
 * Keep. Encyclopedic, fascinating, etc., etc.  Though I have some reservations about this standing alone as a topic, I can't really think of what else it could be grouped with, so meh.  Postdlf 07:29, 29 Apr 2005 (UTC)
 * Keep. I agree that it's fascinating, but it also needs an extreme cleanup for sources and NPOV.  I've started on that (please examine the current version if you voted for delete of merge before) and will continue. --Tony Sidaway|Talk 14:16, 29 Apr 2005 (UTC)
 * Keep - Don't be ridiculous, of course its encyclopedic. --New Progressive 01:39, 30 Apr 2005 (UTC)
 * Keep -- pointless information, but enough people will be wanting to know it for similarly pointless reasons. - Longhair | Talk 04:32, 30 Apr 2005 (UTC)
 * Keep. Interesting bit of history. Leithp 14:21, 30 Apr 2005 (UTC)
 * Keep. I don't see how this is unencyclopedic, and the idea that we need to source everything in it for it to be acceptable is also poor - it is common knowledge, for instance, that Alexander VI and Paul III had illegitimate children.  john k 17:59, 30 Apr 2005 (UTC)
 * Keep. The information seems sourced, and what isn't seems well on its way to being so. Historical, encyclopedic, and quite interesting no matter what your religious background IMHO. T IMBO  ( T A L K )  23:31, 30 Apr 2005 (UTC)
 * Keep but... rename to something like List of popes alleged to have been sexually active - that is, unless you can limit the list to popes who were irrefutably active... slandering popes was popular hobby among Protestants in ye olden days, so I would be dubious about some claims. -- BD thi m k  05:12, 2005 May 1 (UTC)
 * Keep, but funny title, how about "list of horny popes" =) --Prem 06:12, May 2, 2005 (UTC)


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