Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/List of small bands

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The result of the debate was delete. [[smoddy ]] 19:41, 30 August 2005 (UTC)

List of small bands
Delete. A list of bands who aren't notable enough for their own Wikipedia article will be uncontrollably huge. What next, a list of people who aren't notable for their own article? KeithD (talk) 16:30, 24 August 2005 (UTC)

Note: The article in question was moved early on, during in the deletion discussion, and the text was nominated for deletion under the new title as well, as a result, this was the second discussion about what to do with the content, the first was started at Votes for deletion/Machines Of Desire, as far as I could tell, no consensus had been reached to keep the content and merge it to a different article. --Mysidia (talk) 21:37, 24 August 2005 (UTC)

 Speedy delete:Okay, I read the guidelines at Criteria for speedy deletion and I believe Machines of Desire meets the criteria. Does anyone mind if I delete the article right away, or do you want to wait a full seven days to vote on whether it deservers a speedy delete? Sheesh! Uncle Ed 21:04, August 24, 2005 (UTC)
 * Delete probably even speedy -- Ryan Norton T 16:35, 24 August 2005 (UTC)
 * Speedy delete Bands that shouldn't be in wikipedia should probably not be in wikipedia. Friday (talk) 16:43, 24 August 2005 (UTC)
 * (changed to delete, after discussion) KeepInstead of wasting time listing a band article on vfd and voting on it, simply merge it with List of small bands, as I did with Machines of Desire. This will save us all a lot of time. Uncle Ed 16:48, August 24, 2005 (UTC)
 * Delete, by that logic, every single band in existence that fails the very clear WP:MUSIC guidelines can get advertisement inserted into wikipedia. Such a list only circumvents concensus and existing rules and guidelines. - Mgm|(talk) 17:46, August 24, 2005 (UTC)
 * Delete Completely non-notable. --Blackcap | talk 16:58, August 24, 2005 (UTC)
 * Delete useless list of unencyclopedic information &mdash;Wahoofive (talk) 18:09, 24 August 2005 (UTC)
 * Delete. You can always create a separate wiki if you desire to move small bands elsewhere. -- BD2412 talk 18:17, 24 August 2005 (UTC)
 * Please note that Machines Of Desire, currently listed at Votes for deletion/Machines Of Desire, was renamed here during that article's deletion discussion by User:Ed Poor, who also removed the VFD notice from the article. Uncle G 18:34:00, 2005-08-24 (UTC)
 * Why are you talking around me instead of *to* me? And why have you ignored the fact that I already mentioned the very thing you are supposedly informing everybody about (see my comment above). I mean, really! What part of merge it with List of small bands, as I did with Machines of Desire did you think the others here didn't understand? Uncle Ed 19:43, August 24, 2005 (UTC)
 * The difference is that in your comment, you were suggesting that people, instead of VfDing small bands, move the topic to List of small bands (which is a bad idea for the reason given by Mgm above); while Uncle G was letting us know that you had moved Machines of Desire, an article currently undergoing VfD, to List of small bands. Moving VfD articles is explicitly prohibited in the Guide to VfD page and even on the template. You were endorsing this action, Uncle G was not. Uncle G was just saying that this had happened, which is important because if this article is deleted it affects Machines of Desire. --Blackcap | talk 20:14, August 24, 2005 (UTC)
 * Note that Ed Poor unilaterally moved Damon Lucibello and removed the VfD notice without consensus while the discussion was still going on. He's notorious for taking unilateral actions like this.  We know his disdain for VfD in general.  Zoe 23:10, August 24, 2005 (UTC)
 * Yes, Zoe, and I realized my mistake, thanks to Keith. I request that my "unilateral" action be undone, in accordance with consensus. Fair enough? BTW, welcome back, haven't seen you in a year! :-) Uncle Ed 15:47, August 25, 2005 (UTC)
 * Delete per MGM. Editors (especially those recently smacked around for bad judgement in abuse of admin privileges) should please not remove VfD notices during the voting period, regardless of whether they also moved content without consensus.  Mr. Poor, the preceding generalization also applies to you (mentioning this just to be using the second person singular tense rather than talking around you).  Barno 20:04, 24 August 2005 (UTC)
 * Agree on both counts: (1) Deleting vfd was an error in judgment; (2) The rules *do* apply to me. And thanks for not talking "around" me. :-) Uncle Ed 15:49, August 25, 2005 (UTC)
 * Delete. Listcruft, kinda stupid idea. Punkmorten 20:37, 24 August 2005 (UTC)
 * Delete per above. Everybody please stop biting Ed.  JDoorjam 21:53, 24 August 2005 (UTC)
 * Merge with List of minor people and delete. --Carnildo 22:43, 24 August 2005 (UTC)
 * As far as I know, merge and delete is an invalid vote. Punkmorten 08:52, 25 August 2005 (UTC)
 * Normally, yes, but since the target doesn't exist and shouldn't exist, it's just a fancy way of saying "delete". --Carnildo 18:42, 25 August 2005 (UTC)
 * What about the article (in its original form) meets the criteria for speedy deletion? The vanity guidelines, as I understand them, apply to people rather than bands. KeithD (talk) 21:16, 24 August 2005 (UTC) Oops. Your comment, and my reply, should have been at the Machines Of Desire VfD, not at the List of small bands VfD. That's exactly why VfD articles are supposed not to be moved. KeithD (talk) 21:17, 24 August 2005 (UTC)
 * Agree with Keith completely. Thanks for explaining it all to me! Uncle Ed 15:51, August 25, 2005 (UTC)


 * Delete, fails WP:MUSIC. Radiant_ &gt;|&lt; 14:05, August 25, 2005 (UTC)


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