Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/List of songs about Oklahoma (2nd nomination)


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The result was   keep. (non-admin closure) Ron Ritzman (talk) 00:12, 21 August 2010 (UTC)

List of songs about Oklahoma
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Unsourced listcruft. Can't possibly be sourced; seems to violate WP:SALAT as the songs have nothing in common besides mention of Oklahoma. Has existed for four years without a single source. Last AFD closed as no consensus without anyone even trying to address the sourcing problems. Ten Pound Hammer, his otters and a clue-bat • (Many otters • One bat • One hammer) 21:27, 14 August 2010 (UTC)
 * Keep - This again... I don't really buy the "cruft" argument, as "cruft" in Wikipedia basically means "anything I don't like". The link you provide about stand-alone lists doesn't seem to disagree with the existence of this list, as it primarily concerns topics that are too specific or too general, and that does not appear to be the case here. (And, by the way, it's generally a good idea to actually label your links, as providing an alphabet soup of links doesn't add to your argument.) As for the sourcing, the correct way to handle it is to add sources. - Algorerhythms (talk) 21:42, 14 August 2010 (UTC)
 * And where do you propose I'd get them, short of just using the Allmusic listing for each album on which each song appears? I see nothing that specifically discusses songs about Oklahoma. Ten Pound Hammer, his otters and a clue-bat • (Many otters • One bat • One hammer) 22:02, 14 August 2010 (UTC)
 * Keep. Do you really need links to connect Oklahoma (song) with Oklahoma ? East of Borschov 23:40, 14 August 2010 (UTC)


 * Keep It certainly can be sourced. Please consult the Oklahoma History Center. Colonel Warden (talk) 07:57, 15 August 2010 (UTC)
 * Then why is nobody sourcing it? Don't just expect the house to build itself, people. You were arguing for keep last time but doing absolutely bupkis to improve the article. Ten Pound Hammer, his otters and a clue-bat • (Many otters • One bat • One hammer) 18:10, 15 August 2010 (UTC)
 * You have added a song to the list. Please explain why you did not add a source.  Perhaps you thought this was an unnecessary chore?  Note that our policy does not require sourcing of every word and detail - this would be excessive.  Commonsense and policy advise that we only add sources where the information is controversial or otherwise unclear.  If you think that your entry did not require a source, then why should others?  Please indicate the entries which require such work.  For myself, my view is that the list could use  more links from the song titles.  I have improved the first entry in the list to illustrate.  As for house-building, please see WP:INSPECTOR.  Colonel Warden (talk) 13:07, 17 August 2010 (UTC)


 * Keep, per the well-articulated arguments in the prior AfD. Appropriate list matter.--Arxiloxos (talk)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Oklahoma-related deletion discussions.  —Arxiloxos (talk) 16:08, 16 August 2010 (UTC)
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