Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/List of songs about drugs (2nd nomination)


 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.  

The result was delete. — Kurykh  04:34, 15 July 2007 (UTC)

List of songs about drugs
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One of the last WP:NOT-violating list of songs about on wikipedia. Here is the list of songs about graveyard:. List of songs about fecal expulsion. It existed Bulldog123 02:01, 10 July 2007 (UTC)
 * Comment. "List of songs about fecal expulsion" existed? Really? No s**t! (Sorry, I had to do it...) Ten Pound Hammer  • (((Broken clamshells • Otter chirps))) 02:18, 10 July 2007 (UTC)
 * Strong delete, definitely indiscriminate, uncontrollable, hard to verify, you name it. Ten Pound Hammer  • (((Broken clamshells • Otter chirps))) 02:18, 10 July 2007 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Lists-related deletions.   -- Bduke 02:22, 10 July 2007 (UTC)
 * Strong Delete Per WP:FIVE, which says WP Is not a trivia collection.  I definitely see this article as a collection of trivia.   Indexing what's mentioned in a song's lyrics is trivia.  Corpx 02:26, 10 July 2007 (UTC)
 * Strong delete trivia and it would be hard to verify. Oysterguitarist 03:19, 10 July 2007 (UTC)
 * Delete - Impossible to maintain, trivial, and the topic is much too broad. Also, a lot of redlinked bands; these lists seem to be a haven for them. --Bongwarrior 03:59, 10 July 2007 (UTC)
 * Strong Keep. If you think it is impossible to maintain, don't work on maintaining it.  If you think it is trivial, work on something that you think is important.  Redlinks are not bad.  This is useful to the people who study songs, disc jockeys, drug takers, anti-drug fanatics, etc... It is tagged as being uncited.    The purpose of tagging things as uncited is to improve the articles and lists, not to ultimately get them deleted.  I strongly believe that removing all these song lists is a big mistake. I see nothing wrong with lists of information like this.  I do not think policies or guidelines about what constitutes trivia are a productive way of spending our time.  Everyone thinks something is trivia.  Someone else will think the same information worthy of study. -- &#x2611; Sam uelWantman 06:20, 10 July 2007 (UTC)
 * Strong Delete Trivia, not supported by reliable sources. Fails WP:ATT and WP:NOT. -- Charlene 12:08, 10 July 2007 (UTC)
 * Delete. Unlike the "songs about killers" AFD, this one seems to me to be a delete candidate. Firstly, many songs are claimed to about drugs, and verification of false positives/true negatives seems to be particularly difficult. Secondly, this list would be almost infinitely long - there must be thousands of songs written about drugs or drug-taking. All in all, therefore, I would go with delete. Batmanand | Talk 12:11, 10 July 2007 (UTC)
 * Delete Does not pass WP:NOT for being an indiscriminate list. Unable to be maintained as every day there is a new song about a drug.  FYI, it appears the previous AFD, although the result was keep, a lot of the people used WP:ILIKEIT for their reasoning for keeping, which is not a valid reason for keeping an article -- su mn ji m  talk with me·changes 12:24, 10 July 2007 (UTC)
 * Delete Listcrufty trivia Lurker (talk · contribs) 15:41, 10 July 2007 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Music-related deletions.   -- John Vandenberg 15:48, 10 July 2007 (UTC)
 * Delete per WP:NOT, WP:OR etc (same comment as for List of songs about killers below EyeSereneTALK 17:50, 10 July 2007 (UTC)
 * Strong Keep Drug addiction is a problem, and drug culture has been a traditional part of a lot of popular music.  Parents and educators need to be aware of which songs, and which artists, make veiled references to narcotics abuse (or, on the contrary, against drug abuse).   If you like censoring Wikipedia today, trust me, you'll want to screen your kids' music when you're parents. Mandsford 00:40, 11 July 2007 (UTC)
 * Delete suffers the same problems as the other "songs about" lists: how much about the subject must the song be, and who tells it is at least that much? Also, "drugs" is quite wide, even limiting it to psychoactive drugs, as suggested in the article, "drugs" includes alcohol, nicotine and caffeine. Carlossuarez46 19:04, 11 July 2007 (UTC)
 * Delete per delete arguments above. "About" is vague, subjective. Cannot be applied objectively and consistently. Wryspy 16:37, 12 July 2007 (UTC)
 * Delete First of all, who needs these kinds of lists? Second of all, this could be a very controversial article, some people may think a song refers to "drugs" and another doesn't. Also, it would be very, very difficult to verify, pretty much the only way you could do that is to ask the writers of the song etc. Because no one except them know the intent of the songs. Of course some songs are obvious, but we still need to verify, which is hard in this case -- ♫Twinkler4♫   (Talk to me!)  03:40, 15 July 2007 (UTC)
 * The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.